Gilani arrives in Beijing: Bitten by US, Pakistan turns to China

Why in first instance pak need outside support?? Why can’t pak stand on its own feet and become more self reliant… for every issue either their leaders are rushing to US and now to China.Recommend

Yar @indian you are right, problem lies within usRecommend

@ Indian: To combat the terrorists funded by India,.operating in PakistanRecommend

@Khalid Javed:
Could you post any evidence of this claim you make? Any video footage of any arrested terroist? If not, please dont make unsubstantiated claims, they only reduce your credibility as a poster and reflect badly on Pakistani posters as a group.Recommend

thats a evil nexus! You allowed US to interfere in this region and now your are inviting China. This is not good for our SAARC countries. We should solve our problems by co-operation within the region. Business is fine but at strategic level its not good.Recommend

US gave us USD 700 Mn in aid for last years flood but our time tested frnd could only provide USD 18 Mn out of its trillion dollar reserves.Recommend

@Khalid Javed:

You have spoken the open secret man , u rock bro.Recommend

@ahsan:

Bro , they do not shout , they cry , they weep , they wail when we reach out to our friends , & the mothers in their households tell their babies at night, Beta Sleep, otherwise Pak will get new arms technology from China & India will be destroyed & so would be us.

Come on Indians grow up, stop behaving like kiddies , u are by nature kids & this I just don’t say for the heck of saying, I have experienced this weird behaviour of yours while living abroad.

Either muslim inidian , hindu indian , or of any other faith their national demeanour is crying, u are all alike.Recommend

@Dr. Saleem Siddiqi:
Dr Siddiqui, India is never afraid of Pak or China. Everyone knows Pak is a puppet used by many countires for their own benefit. It is your leadership who beg in front of US and now also in front of China. We have excellent economic relations with china with over 60 billion dollor trade.No one of us can afford to go on war with each other, what US has on stake if it misuses pak resources, nothing. Dr Sahib Dosti Baraber walon main hoti hai. If your country dosn’t improve economically every one will look at Pak like a problem baby not as sensible nation.

With Russia we have economic and milittary relation since cold war period and no one does “use and throw policy” towards each other.Few years back the same your prime minister was saying US and PAK are best friends and allies, now your country has been dumped by US your leadership is running towards China for cover. Can you answer me with real justification.Recommend

We should encourage Trade NOT AID with any country, as others have mentioned above. The major issue in Pakistan is corruption, once corruption is dealt and rule of law is implemented, the future will be bright.Recommend

@Khalid Javed:
1. The 20 offices. Do you have any official source substantiating that? Google earth pictures perhaps?
2. The two names you gave us. Are there published interrogation reports? Also perhaps they were spies. Nations send spies to other nations to gather information. A Russian spy ring was recently uncovered in USA. So long after the cold war. But do spies necessarily translate in to terrorists? Did any of these 2 confess to any sorts of attacks against the Pakistani people? Could you please post a link to those official confessions? Any youtube videos may be?Recommend

@ gen

I know you Indians know when someone is ‘barking’ as you guys are so darn good at it; we regard it as talking to you in your own language…

Until you give me proof of Pakistan involvement it is you who is actually ‘barking’ and thats the reason us humans don’t understand you….Recommend

@amoghavarsha.ii

Do you have any proof that OSAMA found and killed there? You are just speaking what US Govt and media taught you.

Do you read statement of IRANIAN President ?Recommend

We need China. But more for developing infra-structure, power generation, mining and defense.. However this only solves part of the problem.

China just like South Korea, Taiwan, Singpoare and India developed by exporting to America and EU. Pakistan has a 5 billion dollar trade deficit with China and $3 billion trade surplus with America.

So Pakistan for balancing the economy has no choice but to continue friendship with USA and EU. No Imran Khann type of bravado. He only knew how to bowl and bat. He is not an econmist. For Pakistan to tackle inflation and keep the currency stable, exports are the key. Exports also give good wages to workers and allow women to join the work force and make the country more moderate like Bangladesh, Malaysia or Indonesia.

People of Pakistan stop watching GEO and start reading Business recorder, Tribune, far Eastern Econimic review and watch business TV channels.Recommend

I don’t understand why every forum is converted into a virtual war (of words) between Indians and Pakistanis. I appeal to all Indians to stay away from commenting on Pakistan’s internal affairs. Its none of your business. And the same message to Pakistanis…please don’t inflame passions by writing things that don’t make sense. Let there be PEACE!!!Recommend

@Umrani:
Quite right! In comparison, India gave over $50M. The Chinese are pragmatists and are not fools like the Americans to be milked for billions of dollars. The only reason China has been supporting and propping up Pakistan is to destabilize India and not out of any real love for Pakistan or Pakistanis. They don’t really have any cultural, religious or civilizational ties with Pakistan. Also, with Indian economy growing close to 8-10% a year and projected to be the third largest economy in the world in two decades, the Chinese are well aware that they will lose out big on trade dollars if they keep up their current anti-India policies. It is quite conceivable that they will dump Pakistan when it comes to say $100B benefit to the Chinese economy. As they say, in geopolitics, there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies.Recommend

China gains a lot from all this chamchagiri from Pakistan – it gets to dump it’s junk in the 180 million market in Pakistan. And no questions asked. Never mind if it destroys local Pakistani inudstry and trade!!!

Also China better be beware – once Pakistan starts exporting it’s most well known product – terrorists and bombers into Xinkiang – the fun will start!!Recommend

@Peace:

Under normal circumstances Indians wouldn’t like to comment on Pakistani internal affairs – but Pakistanis keep sending their carefully nurtured and prized ‘exports’ across the border every now and then which result in loss of Indian lives.

I guess this makes Pakistani internal affairs very legitimate Indian business!! Of late Pakistani internal affairs have become the World’s business too….Recommend

@Munna Bhai:

I wish all Indians think positively like you dude, you are an exception, but I am vey much optimistic, Indian mindset about Pak will change soon.

Convince your leaders on your side to drop nukes & other arms race & work for progress of her people , as India set this pace first , Pak just returned the favour . If India now sets another exceptional precedent of abolishing their nukes we will rest assured push our Govt. to reciprocate in the same token .

This move for sure will drive the Americans out from our region who will have no justification to be here , or else mark my word US is no friend to India either , they are just using them as they used Pak in cold war era. Once their purpose with India is done , then India will be out of their scope.

so remember USA definition : TODAY’S FRIEND TOMORROW’s FOE .Recommend

@Arindom:
@Indian:
Its my message to you and all other indians, “Please mind your own business” & If you have a wishful thinking that India is not depending on anyone then I have to tell you that India is always barking in a direction america points her finger. Current situation is the best example for your convenience and easy understanding.
(Shut Up Call For Indians).Recommend

@ ahsan: Indian foreign policy in general & with its neighbours in particular has been conditioned by its hegenomonistic designs leading to roubles with all its neighbours (forget Pakistan) including Sri Lanka, Bhuttan, Nepal, Maldives, Myanmar etc, The grandiose dream of Greater India has never let them behave like a responsible neighbour. It has been needlessly interfering with the internal affairs of the smaller states in quest of so-called “Greater India”, they consider it their legitimate right to poke their nose into others’ matters like the proverbial peeping, inquisitive eye of a Bhabi in a Muhalla (Sister in law in a community area) !!!!!!!Recommend

@Munna Bhai
Please don’t compare India with Pakistan as India had an unfair advantage when Pakistan was created.

At the time of partitian, India had huge industries at its disposal and Pakistan had not a single. What the achievements we made in Pakistan built it with scratch is really commendable.

Rome was not built in a day. It took hundreds of years for India for present growth and industrialization. Therefore, dont expect that Pakistan has any Alladin Chiragh to match india.

Not forgetting that India too is taking technoligical help from advance countries such as recent Atomic energy plants india – courtesy USA.

So in this world one has to take assistance and help from other countries to move and grow forward and one should not feel shame on it.

Regards

Dr. Saleem Siddiqi

Johannesburg
South Africa.Recommend

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh- never knew Indians had so much time on their to sit and comment on Pak news!

Just good intentions?Recommend

@gen:
@Indian:
“AFRAID” is a simple word. India is “SCARED” would be most appropriate word to be use but I used it lightly.

When George Fernandez was Foreign Minister of India, he used to utter foul language occassionally against Pakistan and used to threatened (what else he or India could do).

However, when Pakistan made a successful Atom Bomb Test, from that day George Fernandez not only became a silent cat because of SCARE but also completely vanish from the Political Scene not to be found.

This is not the case only with George Fernandez but whole of India when they found that Pakistan is an Atomic Power.

So next time you speak about Pakistan – Be careful – - – otherwise you will be fully responsible for your acts and deeds.

Regards

Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
Johannesburg
South AfricaRecommend

We should stop acting like kids, there is a big game yet to be played the players have been set and it will soon come to the picture

so Pakistanis including me, worry less as PAK ARMY has plansRecommend

@Indian:
Why India wanted Nuclear cooperation agreement with USA? Why India had agreements with ex.USSR?

Learn history!Recommend

Pakistan has so much potential at its disposal; so much natural resources yet to be utilize – enough coal to provide country men electric power generated for next 500 years(as per doctor samer mubarak saying). We must act now and utilize our own resources :)Recommend

China has interest in Paistan because they want to use Pakistan so that US cannot make hold of this region; US wants to drive the whole local environement in her favor and China see this threat to her interests. So, it is her interests which is driving her policy. Pakistan also is a big market. China cannot loose it. Emerging countries like Brazil, India etc. wants to take up this market, so China would like to keep pakistan away of these countries. It is matter of business. Only business !!!
I have written in another Blog that if China is our friend then what did they help us in the recent floods. If another war is enforced on us then would China come to help us. I think no. !!! China does not need to indulge in conflicts.
So we have to find friends from woithin ourselves which are Honesty & Commitment with with our country. !!!Recommend