Samjhauta probe: India refuses to share confession

All the culprits are in jail and one of them recently confessed.. Now, where is the question of reviving the investigation? The investigation is ongoing and people are in Jail, unlike Hafiz Saeed, leader of LeT, a group responsible for Mumbai attacks.

This is just a tactic to not act on Terrorists on Pakistani soil. Well, India is doing its bit, without any prompting and Pakistan is playing games.Recommend

@Anoop
They are not in POLICE CUSTODY rather they are in PROTECTIVE CUSTODY. I hope you understand the difference. There is a difference that there is no evidence of Hafiz Saeed’s involvement in Mumbai incident. No arrest can be made without a clear evidence of such involvement. He was arrested and was released due to insufficient evidence. Establish the evidence instead of entire India singing the same “Geet” , work on trial able evidence. He did not confess but your sawmy did. And mark my words Swami is not alone. This whole RSS organization along with BJP is in it 100 percent under the Leadership of L.K.ADVANI. Muslims are not going to forget or forgive Babri Masjid. You will have its aftermath. T hats for sure. We are not Sikhs that you do operation Blue-star and they will sit in peace after that. Even SIKHS took their revenge by teaching Indira a good Lesson that STATES do not attack people’s religious sites no matter what happens. She paid the price of operation Blue star with life.

Therefore,Stop this Mumbai song because it is not going to create a feeling of guilt anyway and if you really want to find the real culprits , you must look inside your own country first and you will find them as you have found SAWMY. Find out the REAL KILLERS of HEMANT KARKARE and you will have the MUMBAI ATTACK PLANNERS. We both know it and You or your GOVT must stop this mantra now because it has started looking ridiculous now. Rather talking all this , You must talk about the on going State Terror operations by Indian army in Kashmir. This whole Mumbai drama was to take world’s attention away from Kashmir. It s not going to succeed. The real face of Indian State Terror machinery must be exposed in Kashmir. 90,000 Kashmirs are killed or disappeared since 1980′s. Who is going to answer this ACT OF STATE TERRORISM? This is the REAL TERROR not MAMBAI Attack.

What is the real motivation behind HINDU TERROR GROUPS. Are not Hindus in majority in India? Against who they are formed? What is the ideology? What’s their Mission? Why do they Put Bombs in minorities worshiping places and blame them on minorities? What is the Link between Col. Prohit ( an army Colonel ) and RSS. IAre Indain army and RSS towing the same line when it comes to minorities? What is behind this whole philosophy? Why do they do that? Has anybody tried to find out answers about the insecurity of this majority Hindu Terror group? Don’t they have the Agenda of AKHAND BHARAT? What justifies then a Full fledges 20 years old Military terror operation against Kashmiris and not against ( Biggest threat to indian security according to PM of India) Naxalites? Why not? Recommend

Yeah, now Pakistan will use this so called “Saffron terror” excuse quiet often now. Thanks to Congress and we should appreciate congressi leaders that how vigorous and hard efforts they are making to prove their bossess sonia and rahul correct.Recommend

he confessed all this himself otherwise indians would never want him 2 .bcoz he had support from the terrorist org BJP which sit in the parliament of so called a secular india…this is really shamefull ..hemant karkare death is yet 2 b solved by the indians in a proper way…the worst is that there police and politicians are also involved in this dirty act …what a cheap act from a cheap country from an indian u can only expect such things

@anoop
stop denying it u r nation has got 174 terrorist org which r busy killing hindus muslims christian….and all these government supported terrorist org r killing and raping christian nuns and killing them go provide them justice…hanging few ppl and puting them behind the bar will not help y dnt ur gov catch the top leader of these terrorist org ..is u r gov too weak or is involved with them or u have got so many ppl who support thes terroristRecommend

@ G.Khan

Tell me one terror act done by Hindu extremists in 2010.
Show, when is the last violent clash occured between hindus and muslims in India.
If Mumbai is a inside act of India, why didnt your leaders had guds to say it ? When the whole world is saying that it was the act of pakistani terrorists, do you give me a statement given by your leaders (Hafeez Sayeed !) denying it.

“Even SIKHS took their revenge by teaching Indira a good Lesson that STATES do not attack people’s religious sites no matter what happens. She paid the price of operation Blue star with life.”

Remember Lal Masjid, i think you dont want to.

Can I ask you one question,
What do you think about the trial of your hero Mumtaz Qadri ?Recommend

So why were crying babies Indians crying out foul about the lack of progress in 26/11 trial when they themselves have just gone through the preliminary stage of investigation in the attacks that were carried out long back? Go get the investigation into 26/11 thoroughly done again and you will find out saffron terror people involved in that as well.Recommend

Mr. MJ Akber, keep an eye on every Hindu as well, living in your neighborhood in India. You don’t know who might turn out to be a saffron terrorist later on. Pakistan do not need to scream out any louder to disclose saffron terrorism phenomenon in India, your own media and investigation agencies are doing the duty with utmost excellence :)Recommend

@tarek,

“So far no evidence has been provided to link Hafiz Saeed with Mumbai attacks.”

–> That is absolute rubbish and a canard. If there was no evidence then why did UNSC blacklist hm and his organization as Terrorist organization after Mumbai attacks?

Why did Interpol issued red-corner notice against him?

India prepared those dossiers for a reason. They sent it to all the Countries and also all major forums. UNSC and Interpol took action based on those very evidence that Pakistan denies. I guess Pakistanis have a different take on justice compared to these neutral organizations. Even the US has termed them Terror Organizations.

http://www.pakpoint.com/hafiz-saeed-to-challenge-un-in-icj-over-unsc-sanctions/1721/

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Interpol-issues-Red-Corner-notice-against-Hafiz-Saeed/articleshow/4934172.cms

“So far only Swami Aseemanand has been arrested”

–> If you are ignorant it is not my fault. I guess you dont even read your Urdu Papers. They are screaming for about 2 years that Col.Purohit and Pragya Thakur,etc are guilty. Where is their current location? Jail

“Why isn’t the entire leadership of RSS under custody?”

–> What does RSS have to do with this? They are a Right-Wing Organization with lower base then say Islamist parties in Pakistan. There were no Terror Incidents in India in 2010 by Hindutva Forces. Comparably there were one a day in Pakistan during the same time. I think more than India, Pakistan has to lock up all the radicals it can find. But, I think in order to do that some Military men also have to go in. That can never happen in Pakistan where the Military is all-powerful.

“For almost three years, India kept on harping the LET was involved in those bombings.”

–> Again!, its not my fault that you are ignorant and dont read the papers. 2007 was the year Samjhota Blasts took place. How can it be that for 3 years that India was blaming LeT when it arrested the leaders of the group in early 2008 and late 2007?

Next time get your facts straight and come. India took action without waiting for Pakistan. As a result of that quick action, 2010 was a Hindu Terror free year. Can you imagine Terror free Pakistan for even a week?Recommend

@Anoop…..after reading this article, here’s what every Indian should do:
Stop ranting on about Mumbai attacks when Saffron terror has been eloquently exposedRecommend

i guess the best choice for the world would be to leave pakistan to its own fate. US should just pull out of AfPak region and let their army and terrorists sort it out among themselves. The only thing US and the rest of the world should do is stop providing any more funds (bheekh) to pakistan and stop all modes of international transportation except humanitarian. This will leave them but two choices either resolve their own mess or keep falling to the abyss of irrelevence to the rest of the humanity. simple and effective.Recommend

I have a simple observation to all Pakistanis. I continually hear you invoking islam and muslim as being your identity. You give the impression that somehow all people practising islam are one homogenous group and that they would endorse your views or actions just for that reason.

However, islam cannot be your primary identity, since it is neither unique to you nor is it your indigenous religion (an essential requirement of ones primary identity). Your ancestors were forcibly converted into the religion by muslim invaders to the indian subcontinent and used religion as an instrument of subjugating people. Therefore, practising islam make you as much muslim, as speaking English makes you an Englishman. What it makes you is subservient to the real “Mussalmans”, the Arabs, who determine how Islam is practiced and preached.

That may be the reason why interpretation and the practice of islam in Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan has reached a such radical stage. Converts continually trying to prove their allegiance and thereby in effect making the subjugation absolute.Recommend

@Anoop M.
Thanks Anoop. I was disappointed reading all these comments and I thought I am the only one who has this opinion.
“Why you both Indians and Pakistanis relish scoring points over each other . I am sure there will be plenty of quotes/misquotes flooding these pages now . Grow up please and encourage each other for good causes.”
But I am glade to know that I am not alone at least there is Anoop M in India who has similar opinion like tahir in Pakistan.
The People of the subcontinent have been suffering for many years. Let’s stop all the misfortunes.
Let’s be courageous and bold. Let ‘s tolerate each other and work for common well being. Recommend

@ Sid kay

Yes all people in subcontinent were not MUSLIMS from the day 1st.

But there’s very wrong IMPRESSION among HINDUS that ISLAM spread over TALWAAR, or imposed on others.

ISLAM SAYS: ” LA IKRAAH FI DEEN”

“there is no compulsion in religion”

Muslims rules over india from 712 (Arrival of MUHAMMAD BIN QASIM) TO 1857.

ABOUT 1000 years. Why there all HINDUS, SIKH, CHRISTIANS still in INDIA?

Thats sure that all those were not converted to their original religion in 1857.

If ISLAM was imposed, there should not be a single non muslim in subcontinent.

MUSLIMS ruled over SPAIN, christians are still there.and were even under muslim rule.Recommend

The speed at which Pakistan is heading down the destructive path the demise of this country will happen sooner than later. Recommend

It seems INDIANS are badly captured by NARCISM.Recommend

Hindus are very sensitive people, they get hurt very easy. That is the reason they can not tolerate minorities. Be like Cameron, Sarkozy who know how to be sensitive. Zardari should come to Dilli and denounce Paki terror and break bread with BJP in Srinagar. That is the road to Indian peace, you know what I mean.Recommend

Anoop
Don’t push state terror n Kashmir under the rug. Indian armed forces are fully complicit in terror.Recommend

@Anoop
This is not my westeren name and ur own newspapers have mentioned that u av got 174 terror org google it out and u will cme 2 know

Y r u denying every thing google it out by mentonig 174 terror org in india there is an artcle on thaindians.com as well

U av asked 4 20 i will give u much more than that

Mizoaram =2
Arnuchal pardesh =1
Jammu and kashmir =32
Punjab =12
Manipur =40
Tripur =30
Nahurnd =3
Meghalaya =4
u wanted the names all r present there google it out and u will get the fact

And its gud u will cme 2 know what u ppl r in2
V r not here for denial start accepting dont consider urself 2 b so clean

Waiting 4 ur response
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@ john

http://keralaclick.com/blog/2009/04/21/list-of-organizations-declared-as-terrorist-organizations-in-india/

As per the above link, there are 36 organization declared terrorist out of which 10 are from Pakistani origin, of the remaining, only maoist and SIMI are active now.

Prove me if am wrong with terror act done by that group with reference.

So, what Anoop said is absolutely correct, it is not enough if you show some tables and ask us to google, you must provide terrorist organization with the last terror act done by them.
Also those two organization i mentioned only maoist are quite in numbers but they dont use suicide bombers, blow up worship places, flog a woman in public and more importantly they dont sent their man to another country to kill scores of people.

Also you told that John is your original name, assuming you to be a christian, do you have balls to appreciate Pope’s comments on Pakistan blasphemy laws in your neighbourhood ?Recommend

@Anoop…..before 9/11, Pakistanis didn’t have a clue of what on earth suicide bombings were. The radical change in that, and the quick transfer of militant culture spreading from Afghanistan to Pakistan is not something to cheer about. If terror can spread so quickly across the region from Afghanistan to once-peaceful Pakistan, it means that India’s days are also numbered. You keep saying there are ‘zero’ attacks in India – same thing also applied to Pakistan a few years ago if you have a good memory. Looking at the current rate, if militancy overtakes Pakistan like its neighbour, it may as well then pass on to India (especially via Jammu & Kashmir) and in future, you guys might be talking about Indian Taliban – lets hope we dont reach that end and Pakistan suceeds of courseRecommend

Now plz tell me if u have any MUSLIM Chief Justice of INDIAN SUPREME COURT.

Having a female PRESIDENT, give some high place to a non Hindu, INDIAN TECTS for giving a soft picture of her to the world.

Sorry to say, attacks on CHURCHES, MASAJID, Mumbai blasts, Gujrat incident, Mali Gaon, Samjhota Express, Kashimir Issue, other States striving for independance from INDIA and many more, all this happens in INDIA. not in PAKISTAN.

we only have a issue in our one province, and evidences are there that INDIA is behind it. I think PAKISTAN is waiting for RT time to present those evidences in front of whole WORLD.

At least we accept what we are. we are not HYPOCRITES.Recommend

@john,

What a pathetic display. Check Google?

Show me one independent study from UN or IMF or WB or some other neutral agency which claims that there are as many Terror groups.

The funny thing is instead of listing out names, you list out numbers? Haha. And, I and everyone have to believe you on your word.

If you cant back up what you say then stop making a fool of yourself.Recommend

@Sara,

“Now plz tell me if u have any MUSLIM Chief Justice of INDIAN SUPREME COURT.”

–> Sorry to barge in. Not just 1 but 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChiefJusticeof_India

Not only Muslims, you will find all of India’s Religions being represented in that List. Lovely thought isn’t it. Not only Chief Justices, Muslims have held all Constitutional Positions. ALL!

Look at India’s 2 biggest passions. Muslims in Film Industry(not just Bollywood) are over-represented in comparison to their demographic size and enjoy crazy Stardom(Shahrukh Khan, Aamir, Salman.. You must know them). Same in Cricket. “Tiger” Pataudi, Azharuddin, Zaheer Khan, Irfan Pathan, his brother Yousuf Pathan have played for India and 2 of them have been India captains.

There was only one non-Muslim guy and he also turned in Pakistan Cricket team.

Indian Muslims are similar in numbers to the Pakistani Muslims, but tell me how many have joined Al Qaeda?

Indian Muslims are infinitely far better Muslims than Pakistanis can EVER be. Indian Muslims are progressive, Pakistani ones are just the opposite. Recommend

Hey Sid kay, no matter how much you people try to enforce upon others the concept that Hinduism was there since way before birth of many other religions, the question still remains why has it not spread the way other religions have spread in the history of mankind? You would definitely not acknowledge but indeed the fact is that the reason why Islam became so much of a success as a religion in this part of world was actually the cast system and injustice in Hinduism, that off course still is the essence of your religion.

For your kind info, the death punishment is just upon saying any thing against our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) that too when proved. We do encourage freedom of speech but within certain parameters. No one is given right to derogate other religion or religious personalities.Recommend

Remembering Samjhauta Express Massacre on 18th February 2011, Karachi Press Club

See Facebook for more detailsRecommend

@M Bilal,

My point was that Pakistani groups are justifiably the first suspects in any Terror related incidents in any of its neighbours. I realize that no sane Paksitani cannot claim that there is no Terror in Pakistan. But, the disturbing trend is that they blame India, US and Israel for this, never the actual people who do this and the people who created them- The Army.

“kept the relationship between the two countries strained. ”

–> I dont how Saffron Terror can affect relations with Pakistan. Do Pakistanis feel they have to stand up to all Muslims all over the world? If so, I would like to ask you why no Pakistani government or leader worth of note has said a word about the brutalities in Xinjiang,China? Is it because China gives lots of aid and cheap arms to Pakistan? If so then its sheer hypocrisy.

“The recent statement of Mr. Digvijay singh about fears that Mr. Karkarey had expressed just before the incident of 26/11″

–> A congress guy hinting BJP has links with Terrorists. That is really fresh. If you have followed Digvijay Singh you will follow a trend of appeasing the Minorities by creating a stir. We call it Vote Bank Politics.

Kavita Karkare, Hemant Karkare’s wife herself has said whatever Digvijay said is for political reasons and not rooted in reality.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Kavita-Karkare-rubbishes-Digvijays-claim/articleshow/7082773.cms

“his death in very early stage of 26/11 incident”

–> So are you saying Hindu outfits somehow convinced LeT to attack India and target a Hospital, where Karkare and 2 others happened to be, and kill Karkare? Because there are a long line of witnesses who testified that they saw Ajmal Kasab and his associate firing at the Vehicle in which the 3 Super Cops were present. And, as we know Ajmal Kasab is a Pakistani and a LeT member, your own Pakistani government has said so.

Do you see the absurdity of this line of thinking?

And, the 3 Super Cops were killed well into 26/11. Hindu Terror groups are toothless. They cant even perform a single operation in a whole year, forget organizing a mammoth operation like 26/11.

“interrogative agencies should start working on to find out real culprits.”

–> India’s Investigative agencies are proved that they dont hesitate to tackle all kinds of Terror. There is no reason why they would not have pursued this theory if there were any clues.

This is precisely the kind of misinformation that your Media and your Establishment are feeding you. Pakistan is a nation of dangerous levels of “head in the sand” syndrome.

“the question still remains why has it not spread the way other religions have spread in the history of mankind? ”

–> First of all Hinduism is NOT a Religion like Islam and Christianity are. Its a culture. The 4 sacred Texts of the Hindu Culture do not speak in terms of a Religion, they speak in terms of Man and Humanity. Get my point?

It would be absurd for Hindu Culture followers to spread as man made thing as a Religion when it itself is not a Religion. That is why nobody protested against or killed A.R.Rahman when he converted to Sufi version of Islam(which is essentially Hinduism in a different name), because of the belief that there are no Religions. That is unthinkable in Pakistan is you convert from Islam to other Religion.

Hindu Culture is inherently tolerant and even extends that tolerance to Animals. As a result India is the largest Vegetarian country in the world.

Hinduism is a relatively new term to signify the people of Indian Sub-Continent before the Mughals came.

Hinduism did inspire new Religions like Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism, who combined have greater following than even Islam or Christianity.

“Islam became so much of a success as a religion”

–> If you say so. Considering there is so much bigotry, intolerance and no Democracy in Islamc Countries, I dont know how you came to that conclusion. Apart from Turkey, whose system rejects Religion, what percentage of them are real Democracies?

As I said there is no such thing as Religion. So, follow the secular way and you will succeed. The result of doing the opposite is right in front of your eyes.Recommend

Lot of heat and dust about hindu terrorism, lets get real.

If someone goes to an airport, a railway station, disco or a shopping center with his family in the last 10 years, anywhere in the world- India, USA, UK or Pakistan, who of the following is more likely to rain him with bullets or a suicide bomb-

a bania loan shark from a village in India who oppresses dalits
a christian hell bent on conversions
a jewish settler in Hebron
a chinese illegal migrant
or a young muslim male of Pakistani origin?

Who do you think, ppl? If you were in charge of airport security in New York or Mumbai, who are you looking for- Swedish grannies or young muslim men?

Lets crush terrorism worldwide, but let us be clear of the biggest danger of them all.Recommend

Anoop, I am a very regular follower of Indian news sites and therefore know what is being cooked there. To your utter surprise, the way this Saffron terrorism phenomenon is blown in Indian media is very significant. In fact I really get surprised when see such low light thrown at this Saffron terrorism issue in Pakistani media. I never follow just one side of story so your observation that we see and hear only what Pakistani media and officials say is quite imaginary. The vote bank politics is exactly what you ignorant people call when any thing bitter but true comes out going against Hindus. It is just by reading the stories in TOI and Hindustan Times that we have realized how fatal the Saffron terrorism people actually are. We the general public always raise our voice against injustice to Muslims anywhere because every Muslim is brother to another going by the basics of Islam, but you cannot expect Pakistani government to poke its nose in internal matters of every country. Leave aside China, the government officials also didn’t raise voice against suppressing of basic rights of Muslims in Iraq, Sudan, and Chechnya. Yes when it comes to Kashmiri and Indian Muslims, it becomes essential as the bonding is very strong with them.

Religion my dear gives you reason of life. It is quite absurd to feel that one has come in this world to live the life the way one wants to. Religion tells you do’s and don’t’s of your life. Code of conduct may be good to certain extent but presence of religion is also vital in ones life. I wonder don’t you feel that gap in your lives without any religion? Talking about democracy, my friend the only Hindu nation in the world i.e. Nepal too just recently has switched itself to democratic form of government, so how come you say only Muslim countries lack democracy. The Islam is full of tolerance and peace, but the only scenario when Islam permits being intolerant is when any thing against our beloved Prophet PBUH is said or when the things are made so difficult that following the basic principles of Islam becomes impossible. Recommend

Sara, you were talking about the percentage of minority communities in your society. Did you know when India and Pakistan got independence what is the percentage of minority community in Pakistan and India against the percentage right now in these two countries. You would be amazed to know that the minority community had shrunk considerably in your great country. How can you feel sorry for the Muslims and Christians (the so called minority community in India). Actually speaking they had grown in % over these years. Can you explain why is this?

You talked about attacks on Masjid, churches. Good to hear. Let me ask you. Whatever you quote are old facts and as time passes, People in India are getting more matured and educated and don’t think involve in these kind of activities. I accept these incident happened in the past and think what is the percentage of these incident happening in out country during the present scenario? In a country of 1.1 Billion you can pointing out 10 incidents, but in a country of 170 million, I can point out 10000 incidents including the one that happened yesterday. Who are HYPOCRITES? You mean Indians? We Indians never give under respect for our fellow Indians from different religion and different belief system. In fact even when we confront among the friends about few facts we try to explain the beauty of our religion and also hear the beauty of their religion and their belief systems. We admire the religions and belief systems of our fellow Indians. Is this called Hypocrisy?

Or you people don’t mind killing your minister(s) including your ex-prime ministers just because they are moderate. Just because one of judges are moderate and promised to do justice to your people, you know what happened to their kin and kith. When the whole world condemn the killing of your minister, there is growth in support for the killer Hero inside your own society. How will you call this.

An Imam and his son were prosecuted to life imprisonment only because, they had torn the posters featuring the Muhammad the PROPHET. Is the life of two persons inferior to those posters in Pakistan?Recommend

@Anoop: Dear Anoop now in Pakistan the Judiciary is not sparing anyone, the Govt., the military, the Moulvis (recently the Haj Minister who belongs to a religious family) all are grabbed and sent to jail if proven guilty. Now how can Hafiz Saeed remain free under this situation? If anyone brings any proof against him, Insha Allah our Judiciary will send him Jail also and no one in Pakistan will object.

Please make sure that justice will take place in Pakistan and same is expected in India also.

By the way we did not see Justice from Indian courts in the BABRI MASJID case

ByeRecommend