Starting with the more mundane issues like the conduct of hearings of the committee, enough time should be set aside for a discourse between committee members and experts called for giving their opinion. Merely hearing statements will not help. Moreover, the Committee should lay down criteria for who constitutes an expert. For instance, there is no point calling a person having a certain qualification if he/she has not worked on that particular area and developed a theoretical framework or shown an understanding of the issue. Every field has its recognised expert whose work is established beyond a few opinion pieces in newspapers or a nod by the military establishment. Surely, the Committee has access to the military and must summon its representatives to give briefings. Thus, calling people who provide them with more of the same perspective doesn’t help. A variety of views and opinions is necessary and should echo in the policy. In fact, the process of making a new defence policy is critical as it can also help in bridging the gap between different schools of thoughts and people belonging to various ideological perspectives.
But more substantively, it must be understood that a defence policy is one of the by-products of a grand national strategy that encompasses the vision, objects, dreams and desires of a nation and a state. A defence policy ought to flow out of it and not precede it. The grand national strategy is critical since it determines the basic direction that a state wants to take. In Pakistan, we have historically never determined the direction. In fact, both our grand national strategy and the defence policy are opaque, which creates major confusion.
The fact of the matter is that it is due to the absence of a succinct grand-national strategy that there is generally so much confusion regarding the concept of “national interests”. People have been honoured and eulogised for upholding the national interest, while others have been tortured or humiliated for bringing it down. Yet, the term remains elusive and something that is generally defined by a few men in arms or their close aides.
Parliament can consider two different approaches to determining both the above-mentioned policies. First, it could get into a huddle with a variety of experts representing various political ideological perspectives and territorial divisions within the country to appreciate what people need and then determine the grand national strategy followed by a defence policy. Second, it could actually engage in a more ambitious exercise of assessing what the people want in terms of their security and future direction of the state. This is a path which was followed by South Africa several years ago. After the end of apartheid, the new elected government identified stakeholders in a national security policy that included the military, defence bureaucracy, defence industry and its vendors, politicians and people at large. Commissions were set up in all sub-regions and people were invited to testify and talk about what kind of security they wanted. The reports of hundreds of such commissions were then collated and went into making of the grand national strategy that defined the future direction of South Africa. The next document to be prepared was a defence policy, a vision statement for the armed forces and an assessment of the size and strength of the military.
For the sceptics of this approach, who may argue that the common man is ignorant of higher military and security matters, they should be warned that the public is the prime beneficiary of defence which is why defence spending is considered a public good. Therefore, it is necessary for the state to access what people consider as a threat or the biggest challenge facing the nation, since the perception may vary from region to region (there is also the possibility that in the next few years, the perception of threat and security may generally become singular due to the proliferation of the Jamaatud Dawa and the Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan cadres throughout the country that seem to be converting people to a certain set of ideas. This means that in a few years there might be lesser difference on certain issues between people in Punjab, Balochistan, Sindh and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa). Furthermore, it is important to note that in the South African case, people did not necessarily ask for elimination of the military but the exercise helped in rationalising the military security structure and fine-tuning its nuts and bolts. People are only afraid of such an idea due to their fear for their personal interests and bias.
Of course, there is always the possibility that a member of the august parliamentary committee may think that all of this is a lengthy exercise in collecting opinions and that crystallising them into a useable form sounds like a long-term exercise, which they may not be interested in. There is a general preference all over the country to do visible projects with a shorter gestation period that can bring quicker accolades to the people who undertake them. However, it is essential to carry out the mission of reviewing and remaking a defence policy in a credible manner rather than doing a half-baked job. What is important is the making of a policy rather than the pretence of making one.
Ultimately, it is the accommodation of multiple perspectives and opposing views without physical and psychological harassment of the people that will strengthen this state.
Published in The Express Tribune, October 25th, 2012.
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@Author:
"For the sceptics of this approach, who may argue that the common man is ignorant of higher military and security matters, they should be warned that the public is the prime beneficiary of ....."
As if the common man has already proved his high level of awareness in the general elections and elected fake degree holders, dual nationals, white collar criminals, and oligarchs masquerading as true democratic forces, and now the common man is fully enjoying the benefits of the exceptionally good governance delivered by the resulting government. Moreover, the author perhaps also mean to suggest that all government's of the world essentially conduct opinion poles prior to making defense policies, the proper process GOP has ignored.
Posted again with correction.
Stop the patronising tone–you have no idea who I am and what I think. You just read one email and your extremist flights of fancy immediately take you to the darkest corners of your sick, prejudiced mind. Too much Ayn Rand, not enough Bulleh Shah can induce this condition, especially in H1-B indians.
@Indian Wisdom:
Stop the patronising tone--you have no idea who I am and what I think. You just read one email or your extremist flights of immediately take you the darkest corners of your mind. Too much Ayn Rand, not enough Bulleh Shah can induce this condition, especially in H1-B indians.
@Indian Wisdom:
It is exactly this kind of rank stupidity that gets me going--what gave you the impression I was "obsessed" with women or turds? It was an expression i used--"intellectual turds"--that even dumbo the clown would have understood to mean BS but that will be raising the bar too high for you. And I am not talking about the idiotic posts madam gp65 has left all over the place because they are from a woman--I am only pointing it out because they are just placebo and plain stupid. The only thing she is interested in is shameless self promotion and useless wordsmithing. "She" can be a "he" or anything in between for all I care. Is that understood, mr. indian wisdom?
And my reference to the bharti constitution was only a satire only a village idiot could have missed if you know what I mean, mr. indian wisdom? Use the same thesaurus you used to look up misogynist to find out what satire means. I mean, you really are that literal? A child of ten has more finesse and understanding of language than what you and your co-agent gp65 have shown. i can't believe how you are both falling over each other trying to attach links to statistics on women prisoners in india to counter my pun--i am not aure how to stop the belly laugh that is welling up inside me!
Malarkey is pure odourous drivel. I will leave the indian version to your sordid imagination--you are the master of it so you know what it means. And thanks for the answer--a No was the right choice but the question must have put you through some mental hoops as intended.
I am sure there are many sane indians in india--it is unfortunate that ET draws the bottom of the barrel! O' Lord, please save us from the wisdom of indians. Amen.
@gp65: Thanks indeed for the link. @Sultan: I hope we have been able to clear some of your misconceptions about India and Indian Constitution. Just one request, please have respect for women, not superficial (as you will immediately claim that you respect women more than any Indian laying turd), but from the depth of your heart and you will find that women are also as intelligent and as "intellectual" as any man!!!! Believe me you won't regret that. Cheers.....
@Indian Wisdom: SIr, to amplify your point that there is no such exemption to women for murder, larceny etc. in the Indian constitution, here is a link to our constitution : http://india.gov.in/govt/constitutions_india.php?id=2 . No one can find such references because they do not exist.
@Indian Wisdom: and this was just an example of number of women (accused for crime) in jails in India. According to an UN study there were more than 13,000 convicted women prisoners in India in 2004!!!
@Sultan: "Really? So you think every woman, just because of her gender, has the right to lay intellectual turds and get away with it? Your answer should be either a clear Yes or a No–no more Indian Malarkey!" I am really amused at your question. If you want an answer my answer is "NO" . But why to concentrate just on women??? Any nerd should not get away with turd.... Why are so much obsessed with women ??? why so much emphasis and concern for turds from women?? And what is this Indian Malarkey, can you please elucidate how is it different from Pakistani Malarkey???
@Sultan: "I also just consulted the indian consitution which clearly states that in india, you don’t jail women for murder, theft, larceny, etc"
Really, then please go through the copy of the book you have once again, as there are thousand of women prisoners (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-10-16/india/344979591women-prisoners-hc-order-trial-court ) in Indian jails for crimes ranging from murder to Naxalism ... But as you have already mentioned this report might just be another example of Indian Malarkey... Cheers!!
@Indian Wisdom:
I also just consulted the indian consitution which clearly states that in india, you don't jail women for murder, theft, larceny, etc. because according to your definition, women are expempt from being held responsible for their behaviour and any one who dares say otherwise will have committed misogyny! If this is the calibre of the educated in india, one can only imagine the state of mind of the 80% who do not go to IIT, are not in a queue for an H-1B, and have been written off and forgotten by the Ayn Rand loving indian neo cons.
@Indian Wisdom:
Really? So you think every woman, just because of her gender, has the right to lay intellectual turds and get away with it? Your answer should be either a clear Yes or a No--no more Indian Malarkey!
@gp65: @Indian Wisdom: "Thank you for your very kind words Sir."
No... Its my honor. In my personal opinion I find the comments of two persons which are most balanced, objective,logical and informative.That of yours' and that of Mirza'. I have never seen the comments of either of you getting devoid of objectivity even in most emotional topics where it is very easy to get drifted in the passion for/against that topic. Cheers!!!
The Parliment Is Not Supreme As Lead To Be By PPP Government. The Interest Of Common Citizen Of Pakistan Is Prime. The Functions Of Elected Government To Implement Good Of Citizen Of Pakistan By Raising Standard Of Living For All. The Purpose Of Elected Goverment Is To Protect Rights, Aspirations, Facilitate By All Government Institutions As Well As To Provide Protection To All Citizens Of Pakistan. People Of Pakistan Stands Supreme. Pakistan Paindabad.
@Sultan: @Indian Wisdom: "And when the “shes” amongst us start laying intellectual turds, what do we call them then?"
I for sure know a word for the phenomenon when we start using the language like this for "shes" amongst us :- "Misogynist"
@Indian Wisdom:
And when the "shes" amongst us start laying intellectual turds, what do we call them then?
@Indian Wisdom: Thank you for your very kind words Sir.
@gp65: @observer: I am a she not a he.
Some inculcated gender stereotyping in play!!
Perhaps we have been conditioned to presume that well balanced, objective, and scientific thought process is the prerogative of "he" and emotional, immature of that of "she" and it becomes natural to assume that a person who can have such thoughtful comments like that of gp65 must be a "he", something like plumbers and electricians for male and nurses and hairdressers for female.......
Not the fault of observer!!
@Cautious: "Perhaps the author doesn’t know that the Military controls foreign policy and that the military doesn’t report to the Civilian Govt?"
Sir, you underestimate the author. She was an auditor for the military for more than a decade and has even written a book about that which is referenced in her byline She understands the current dynamics but is pushing for a change.
@sabi "If there is some ambiguity left in my post I hope you would give me the benefits of doubt". Well of course. It because of the ambiguity which made it appear that your post was inconsistent with earlier posts that I addressed my post to you directly so you could clarify. And I now understand that you were not referring to bypassing true public opinion but rather the perception of public opinion created by the media which is largely right wing. So I think we are both on the same page.
@observer: I am a she not a he.
@Sultan: Well said. Agree with you 100%
Perhaps the author doesn't know that the Military controls foreign policy and that the military doesn't report to the Civilian Govt? Fix that and then pontificate how Parliament should modify foreign policy.
@Feroz:
"What also needs to be discussed is the ideology of Pakistan — a grand esoteric concept which has caused the country more grief than good"
There is no need to discuss the ideology of Pakistan--it is like asking how long is a piece of string? Everyone will have a diffrent answer. The fact is that Pakistan exists and we should get on with it. We are fortunate enough to have one of the best pieces of real esate on this planet, loaded with natural resources, highest mountains, prettiest meadows, fertile plains fed by some of the mightiest rivers on this planet, the bluest seas, the prettiest beaches, the loveliest deserts, birds, animals, gems, gold, nuts, fruits, vegetables, fish, livestock, grains, rice, cotton, sugar cane, art, music, culture, history, a well-equipped and sizable army, a nuclear deterrent, an entrepreneural spirit, an army of overseas forex earners, a geostrategic position and a large population.
How many countries on this planet can you name that have even half of that? So many nations will give an arm and a leg to get what we have but do not realize. If that is not enough to build a good life for us, only God knows what else will be? What does it matter how it came to be? What matters is it did and we got a good piece of property--think of it as a gift inheritance. All we need is to develop it and enjoy living there as Pakistanis first and everything else after that. All we are missing is education and justice for the masses; hopefully, our new aspiring politicians have a good grip on this reality and will use their best minds to evolve a strategy that takes us away from the path of war to the land of peace. It will be great to live in a new Pakistan.
What first comes to mind for law makers involved in something as important as this, is that they are not half citizens of Pakistan.
Ms. AS you are truly a genius & bold lady confronting establishment.
Parliament should devise a policy but ironically the sitting law makers are convicted and criminals. Nearly half of the members have been convicted by courts in the past. So we can image what type of strategy they will pursue.
"But more substantively, it must be understood that a defense policy is one of the by-products of a grand national strategy that encompasses the vision, objects, dreams and desires of a nation and a state. A defense policy ought to flow out of it and not precede it......"
How true!!! Only if the Decision Makers pay heed to this simple fact......................
@sabi:
@gp65
I agree with the objective of the policy as outlined by you. But I also agree with gp65 when he explains that any policy, no matter how well intentioned should not bypass the people. There is an urgent need to spell out the different policy options and their implications to the people. I am sure, given all the facts, people in general will make a rational decision. I am encouraged in holding this view, looking at the fate of the outright communal and sectarian political parties.
This will also involve rolling back indoctrination, as seen in Text Books. A task easier said than done.
Defence policy is vital to any nation and its making ought to be most comprehensive as well as feasible. One cannot however, draw parallels between system adopted by a particular nation with another. The writer in this context has talked about South Africa but, how far the same will apply and function successfully with regard to Pakistan is a question that Pakistan alone can answer. The role of the army in Pakistan has been pretty influential since 1958 hence one cannot really conclude as to how far a similar exercise as had taken place in South Africa should work in Pakistan. Indeed practical experience is much more needed or essential in framing such a policy vis-a-vis theoretical knowledge hence the Committee formed in this context ought to be one that prepares a policy that is feasible in the conditions prevalent in Pakistan. Democracy is taking roots apparently as one might say and will need time to take the final grip of things in the nation however defence is equally vital and hence a defence policy that is needed to be remade in a more credible manner that safeguards the national interests of the country. A half baked working certainly will not help or yield any fruit. Threats have changed from conventional wars to terrorism, religious fundamentalism, cyber wars etc and political equations among nations globally have changed and are still changing and so are relations with neighbours. Hence, the defence policy should be framed in a manner that does not create xenophobia in the minds of the people of Pakistan as well as those nations that have not shared very cordial relations with Pakistan but at the same time a new beginning is essential. Defence does not mean offence but safeguarding of national interests and the entire national territory from intrusions and attacks. The parliament of Pakistan should work comprehensively on this account and prepare a policy that proves most useful to their interests and that of the people of the Islamic Republic.
@gp65: Thanks a lot for your kindness it's my pleasure. If there is some ambiguity left in my post I hope you would give me the benefits of doubt. I have infact pointed to fake public opinion done on private media channels and print media where right wing mindeset prevails.This can never be accepted as real public opinion.This is the job of public reps.as you have also mentioned.Politicians should work hard on forming such policies and should not rely on popular public perceptions.And off course yes they should be bold enough to stand on their policies and bring the public into confidence. Second: On Jinah's lines..The principal that I have mentioned earlier , should be as much workable as some sixty five years ago.(a thing of beauty is a joy for ever...)
This article does suggest some serious inputs necessary to draw a credible national strategy for the country. First, a country must decide where it wants to go in different time phases. Only when the destination is clear can a strategy be made to reach it. From the national strategy should emerge not only the defense strategy but all else too. What also needs to be discussed is the ideology of Pakistan --- a grand esoteric concept which has caused the country more grief than good. Currently expectations are so low from all stake holders that anything will be better than nothing.
Hopefully this will further gel our inevitable shift toward civilian supremacy in Pakistan. Our national interests, our foreign policy, defence policy, education policy and all other policies should be taken out of the GHQ and be made the exclusive domain of civilians in the executive and legislative branches
@gp65: Please replace make decisions" by recommended options" in my previous post
@Mirza: "Parliament is supreme and it should take full control of defense and foreign policy."
The defense minister and rest of cabinet which is the executive should be in charge of the policy design - not the parliament which is a legislative body.Certainly a committee can be formed of parliamentarians including people from opposition to make decisions but the executive cannot give up control of policymaking.
@sabi: Sabiji, as you know I have high respect for your opinions. But I feel that what you have stated here is inconsistent with your own thoughts listed in many other posts where you support democracy. If you try to implement some policy that most people do not buy, it will be undermined the people anyway.
Secondly while Qaid-E-Azam will forever remain a person that the Pakistani nation will be grateful to, it is not possible to develop policies today based on what he thought. A lot of water has flown under the bridge just like we do not necessarily follow Nehru's economic policies today.
Finally, you worry that people maybe brainwashed and may not take the 'right' decisions. While you may be correct upto a point, they also can prioritize wisely when presented with facts. So if you simply ask them questions like should you spend more on defence - look how much India is spending, they may say yes. But if you say you have a 100 rupees that can be spent on defense, local law and order (reducing kidnapping, extortion, target killing, suicide bombing), education, health, electricity, water resources, schemes like BISP, on disaster prevention and management e.g. floods , earthquake etc. - their answers may surprise you.
Indian electorate even when illiteracy was higher than present day Pakistan - has voted wisely. You should trust the Pakistan electrorate's wisdom similarly. As it is people's elected representatives of parties like PML-N, MQM etc, have already been calling for a rethink of the distribution of nation's resources. I may have left some party out due to my lack of knowledge but these discussions are now in the public domain.
A very reasonable approach. I sometimes wonder that had anyone asked the people of this country on whether we needed an atom bomb and had we known the economic repercussions of it in the form of significantly bloated defense expenditure and low development expenditure, most likely a lot of us would have chosen to opt out.
Parliament is supreme and it should take full control of defense and foreign policy. Everything should be discussed in the parliament and its supremacy accepted. No more independent institutions in Pakistan anymore.
The national defence policy should be formed on the lines what founder of the nation, when asked, said about the nature of Pakistan-India relations.He said Pakistan-India raelations would be developed on the lines of America-Canada relations.Asking for public opinon for new defence policy means victory for status quo as majority of public is brainwashed by the establishment.Country will have to say good bye to its hostile defence policy which has given nothing but disaster.What is national intrest must also be clearly defined.in the defence policy.