Afghan govt condemns Imran’s jihad comment

Published: October 13, 2012
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Karzai to meet MPs in this regard. PHOTO: AFP

Karzai to meet MPs in this regard. PHOTO: AFP

KABUL: 

The reverberations of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chief Imran Khan’s political gaffe are being felt across the Durand Line.

The Afghan government has strongly condemned the PTI chief for his statement, said Farhad Azimi, deputy secretary of the Afghan parliament while talking to The Express Tribune.

“This is clear interference in Afghanistan’s internal affairs. We urge the Pakistani government to arrest people who support the Taliban,” Azimi said. Imran, while visiting child activist Malala Yousafzai in Peshawar on Thursday, had termed the ongoing war in Afghanistan against foreign troops ‘jihad.’

Azimi said Afghan President Hamid Karzai will meet members of parliament in a regular session on Saturday (today) to discuss the issue.

He is likely to issue some directions in this regard, Azimi said.

 Political slogan

Veteran journalist and political analyst Fahim Dashti said this is not the first time Imran has given such a ‘negative’ statement about Afghanistan.

“It is a political slogan through which Khan wants to gain more support. Clearly this is neither fair nor logical,” Dashti said.

Those who consider terrorism a threat would never support Khan in this stance, Dashti said, adding “even if they are supporting him, he will lose them slowly.”

He said the Afghan people had high expectations from Imran when the PTI emerged as a strong political entity, but he proved to be a conventional politician.

‘Imran supported by Taliban’

“The war in Afghanistan is not jihad. This is a war by terrorists against Afghanistan, its people and the entire international community,” said Hamid Zazai, managing director of Mediothek, an Afghan-German NGO.

He alleged that Khan is receiving support from the Taliban, and that by making such statements, he is just “paving the way for stronger Taliban support than what he is enjoying now.’

Published in The Express Tribune, October 13th, 2012.

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Reader Comments (119)

  • huzaifa
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:00AM

    I think that PTI leader has lost the the sense and sensibility in the process and effort of gaining popularity.

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  • M.Ahmer Ali
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:05AM

    “The Afghan government has strongly condemned the PTI chief for his statement, said Farhad Azimi, deputy secretary of the Afghan parliament while talking to The Express Tribune.
    “This is clear interference in Afghanistan’s internal affairs. We urge the Pakistani government to arrest people who support the Taliban,” Azimi said. Imran, while visiting child activist Malala Yousafzai in Peshawar on Thursday, had termed the ongoing war in Afghanistan against foreign troops ‘jihad.’
    Azimi said Afghan President Hamid Karzai will meet members of parliament in a regular session on Saturday (today) to discuss the issue.
    He is likely to issue some directions in this regard, Azimi said.”

    In the light of these stated words Farhad Azimi is absolutely
    1-Speaking and indicating purely the US’ language of war,
    2-Defining the Jihad in US’ words,terms and conditions instead of Quran and Sunnah and
    3-Portraying/resembling the “Jihad” in Afghanistan against US’ and NATO’s forces by Taliban as the “terrorism” only and only to please and rejoice USA.
    He must has to read Quran an Sunnah and then give statements in regard of Jihad and terrorism with solid and authentic evidences……..

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  • Fazil
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:06AM

    Yes,it’s interference in afghanistan affairs. We should shun to interfer in other’s internal affairs. Afghanistan isn’t pakistan’s provice and we are not their masters. Mind our own bussiness.

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  • Talha
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:06AM

    true that!!

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  • Iftikhar-ur-Rehman
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:08AM

    IK should stick to Pakistan and give solutions for its problems and not interfere any other countryRecommend

  • faraz
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:08AM

    Even if it’s accepted that Taliban represent pushtoon, as Imran claims, Taliban would represent only 45 percent population of Afghanistan. Rest of the 55 percent Afghans consists of Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazara, Baloch etc. who hate Taliban. Urban and moderate pushtoon also hate Taliban. Imran doesn’t even know the basic demography of Afghanistan.

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  • Noor
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:11AM

    Whatever you called it Mr. Fahim Dashti but US is an occupying force in Afghanistan.

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  • Arslan
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:15AM

    Yes the Soviet war was also not Jihad. It was a terrorist operation against Russia right? People say whatever suits their purpose. Whether Karzai and his puppet government likes it or not Pashtuns in Afghanistan and tribal region will never succumb to foreign power.
    The only thing the Afghan “puppet” government is afraid is when US leaves the country will go back to its original state.

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  • abdul.
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:15AM

    such a pathetic statement

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  • kashif
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:16AM

    imran khan supported by taliban ??? this just sounds dumb

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  • Irtiza
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:18AM

    What else do you expect from Imran Khan?

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  • PakArmySoldier
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:19AM

    This statement was the final nail in the coffin for me. I like PTI’s economic, health, and energy policies but their policy on terrorism has forced me to withdraw my support. I think Imran Khan is a person of great integrity but I fundamentally disagree with him on his stance towards the Taliban. He is increasingly sounding like a deranged conspiracy theorist.

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  • azad
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:22AM

    afghan government talks about interference in internal affairs…
    well weren’t the afghan government responsible for giving shelter to brahamdagh bugti

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  • Hassaan
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:23AM

    This is what happens when you misquoted someone out of context. See Asad Umar’s latest tweet on ET. You will know the reality. Now waiting for some so-called intellectuals to lampoon IK. Carry on. I’m waiting. You guys will NEVER talk about AAZ whose is responsible for this mess, but keep criticizing IK, who has not a SINGLE seat in parliament.

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  • KiJ
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:24AM

    What is the war against a foreign occupier called then?

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  • shoaib khan
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:24AM

    his statement has been totally twisted
    what he meant was the people fighting in the tribal areas perceive it to be jihad…

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  • Lost for words
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:32AM

    Anybody who talks of Jihad in twenty first century has a serious disconnect with life in present times. No wonder by doing so we find ourselves increasingly isolated in the world. Same would be the case, for instance, if we were to try and practice the institution of slavery in present times. Letting individuals enforce their own interpretations of religion, any religion for that matter, over and above the laws and codes that a nation state adopts for itself, is a sure recipe for anarchy and total mayhem. Allowing that would mean any Qadri would pull a gun on any Salman Taseer who he believes is blasphemous, any Taliban would attempt to kill a child who he thinks would grow up to be, in his judgement, a bad person, any husband seeking to rid of his wife for whatever reason, would simply need to lay a charge of not being sufficiently religious on his wife and kill her with impunity. Of what good is our slogan of Islam being a religion of peace and harmony when we have allowed it to fall in the hands such barbarians.

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  • Abid
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:35AM

    khan said what will you do when your own country is occupied by foreigners, obviously you will fight them and it’s a jihad to fight against foreign occupation forces, like the way it is going in Afghanistan. what is wrong with his statement?

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  • ghattiman
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:41AM

    Imran wants pashtoons to be backward always thats why he supports taleban who are against modern education. if he comes to power will he implement policies of taleban all over Pakistan or just pakhtoon areas?

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  • Thinker
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:47AM

    Imran Khan meant that “Taliban think they are doing Jihad in Afghanistan”

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  • ADEEL
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:55AM

    Well this is like just one statement taken out of his interview and given unnecessary publicity…
    All the recent events are being manipulated and used to defame imran khan, clearly the US govt doesnt want him to be the next PM of Pakistan….
    All this campaign is to brand Khan a religious extremist

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  • gp65
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:56AM

    @Thinker: “Imran Khan meant that “Taliban think they are doing Jihad in Afghanistan””

    Imran was not giving what the Taliban think. He was giving his own opinion. Here is the actual video. http://tribune.com.pk/story/450958/afghan-govt-condemns-imrans-jihad-comment/

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  • gp65
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:57AM

    Let us see whether he gets the same reception as Sheikh Rashid or different one on his next trip to US.

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  • De
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:00AM

    Does anybody know that afghan Taleban and Pakistani Taleban(TTP) are two different groups? Afghan Taleban are not killing Pakistanis so if anybody is thinking that IK is supporting the killings in our country then they r wrong. Btw even Karzai once mentioned the foreign forces as ‘occupational forces’! He even threatened to join the Taleban if the Americans pressurized him so much!

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  • Oct 13, 2012 - 11:08AM

    Perfect example of sensationalism by the media. First, media quotes someone incorrectly then creates a fuss over it.

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  • nahmed
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:14AM

    If few people are struggling to outst the invaders in their country, what else will you say??
    This is Jihad (Struggle).

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  • Ali
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:15AM

    I’m not a PTI supporter and neither am i a voter of PTI but after the economic, energy and health policies i think i must add that PTI is on the right track.

    Coming to the point, the news that ET published day before yesterday, i urge my fellow Pakistanis to dare ask for sources of news published in newspaper as well because we all know and newspaper cheifs also know that it’s election year and we are bound to read such statements which sometimes are not even from the person himself but from the oposition party trying to malign the other one.

    Secondly i have HEARD Imran Khan on several occasions when he said :” the war in Afghanistan against the US invasion is PERCEIVED as a Jihad by the pushtoons since they clearly don’t accept invasions/intruders “.. And i hope all of us here on ET who comments on blogs/columns/news are educated enough to know what ” PERCEIVED ” means. I really hope ET cheifs will one-day realize that they are losing lots of support as well because of their, sometimes, biased stories in a sense that they don’t include point of view of the other party. They should have added PTI’s spokesman point of view atleast in this news and let us, the readers, then decide which one to buy and which one to garbage. Regards

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  • Patriot
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:17AM

    PTI supporters are at pains to calrify and justify the irrational statement of their leader. Desperate to gain power, he is now trying to attract the right-wing vote of Paksitanis, but in the process he is putting at stake the support of the educated, moderate and enlightened Pakistanis. Come on Mr Khan, this is not how politics is done.

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  • Abid
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:20AM

    i support Khan’s stand and i would like to ask anti Khan statement supporters ..who gave shelter To Brahamdagh Bugti ? Who has given shelter to the famous Thug Mullah Fazllulah? There are many statements of Karzai in which he clearly indirectly supported these renegade dreaded terrorists which are notorious in Pakistan.

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  • nahmed
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:22AM

    @ghattiman:

    His university is one of the best educational institution in Pakistan. We should know the facts first before we comment.

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  • PS
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:23AM

    @Thinker: ” Imran Khan meant that Taliban think they are doing Jihad in Afghanistan”

    If these are Afghan Talibans then they can do what they think is best for them. We should not poke into their affairs. Good or bad, they have a government that is recognised by the nations of the world. Countries cannot start interfering into each others’ affairs just because they think that such countries have bad or corrupt rulers. However, once we allow these Afghan Talibans to come and seek sanctuaries in Pakistan or if we allow any Pakistani to go into Afghanistan to wage a Jihad, then we cannot argue against a counter attack by the enemy, in the shape of a drone strike or whatever. The confusion with Imran Khan and others who think like him is that on the one hand he supports Jihad and on the other hand he is not prepared to pay the price of such Jihad. It is people like him who are ultimately to blame for the countless innocent lives lost in mosques, schools, market places et al.

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  • Oct 13, 2012 - 11:26AM

    @KiJ: A war and NOT Jihad

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  • Pakistani
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:26AM

    All know that war in Afghanistan is jehad but no one can say it as the war in Afghanistan is against USA and so no one dare to call it jehad, Imran showed courage to call it jehad, he is really an honest man.

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  • Naeem
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:27AM

    Some say he is a Jewish agent and some say he is Taliban agent! Ever confused nation.. IK is THE leader Pakistan need. I support IK and I’m a liberal!

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  • Oct 13, 2012 - 11:28AM

    Note the bias in favor of Taliban and against Afghanistan

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  • maestro
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:39AM

    Ok then afghans- 3 million of you that we fed for 3 decades and you gave us nothing but trouble. GO HOME!

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  • vasan
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:40AM

    Who will define Jihad, Is it built into any country’s law books or constitution?,. If not, talking jihad will mean various things to various people and will cause anarchy. IK or other politicians should not even utter jihad in the political context. That will a better choice.

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  • yaz
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:44AM

    After reading the first sentence of this article I knew where it would be going.

    “The reverberations of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chief Imran Khan’s political gaffe are being felt across the Durand Line.”

    ET as usual showed how biased it is against IK. It singles out IK and distorts his statements quite brazenly. It is the percption he was talking about. He was NOT advocating Jihad against Afghanistan. Recommend

  • closey
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:46AM

    @pakarmy

    people like were never going to vote for Imran anyway..you’d have woken up late on the election day.

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  • imran
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:48AM

    May be Imran is equating Jihad to Terrorism.

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  • Was A Pakistani
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:52AM

    @Noor:
    If you are not an Afghan then you are no one to judge that. If Afghans feel US is occupying then they are and if they feel they are liberator then they are. But IK has lost his senses that is for sure clear.

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  • Tch tch
    Oct 13, 2012 - 12:00PM

    lol Express tribune your interviewer asked a question based on a report you concocted a day ago.
    Target achieved…..Great journalism.

    The video of the press conference is available online for ppl who interested..Recommend

  • bilal.
    Oct 13, 2012 - 12:00PM

    IK said that the tribals and locals think that they r doing jihad against the invasions.

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  • Oct 13, 2012 - 12:17PM

    if america occupies pakistan n if u dare to fight 4 ur own mother land then what would u like to be called ? A TERRORIST OR A FREEDOM FIGHTER? WAITING 4 UR REPLIESRecommend

  • abc
    Oct 13, 2012 - 12:25PM

    Well IK statement is taken out of context and one should abstain from it. He always talks sensibly and he argued about the presence of foreign troops and the local rebellion against them. There is no need for him to take interest in Afghans internal matters and afghans must also stay out of pakistan. Pakistan is paying a very huge cost for all the mess up created in their country and if they are so capable than they must first keep their own house in order. We cannot sustain more loss on our side and pakistan must reconsider all the matters in its national interest.

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  • resilient
    Oct 13, 2012 - 12:28PM

    he is spokesperson for Pak secret agencies and Difah-e- Pakistan council. Elections nomenclature is getting clear. government will be formed with PTI+DPC+Awami League(Sheikh tully).. hehehehe…….:-)

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  • Ali Tipu
    Oct 13, 2012 - 12:30PM

    I look outside my window and I see many Afghan children running and playing in the streets. Many of them are involved in robbery, theft and illegal activities such as selling of drugs. Likewise they must leave my country too and mind their own business. Interference my foot

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  • asher
    Oct 13, 2012 - 12:33PM

    Kudooos to tribune for delibirately twitsting every statembent from imran. Do not understand why was it too difficult to understand that imran khan was talking about taliban and Local ppl that they take it as jihad as long as foreign occupation forces are there ….

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  • Khan of Jandul
    Oct 13, 2012 - 12:35PM

    Pakistan is ally in the WoT. It has given logistic support to the US and put its air bases on the US disposal. Recently, It submitted an invoice for the expenditures that it incurred in its military operations. Similarly, Pakistan has shared, and is sharing intelligence about Alqaeda and Taliban targets with the US. More importantly, Pakistan has captured, killed and sold many alqaeda and Taliban members to the US. More shameful act was the hand over of Taliban Ambassador Mullah Zaeef to the US. If the argument of Imran Khan is accepted, then he must have the moral courage to declare the ongoing struggle of TTP against Pakistan state as jihad.

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  • Khan(Ex-PTI)
    Oct 13, 2012 - 12:35PM

    IK may have lost thousands of his supporters (like me) since he has made this statement. We should leave this to Afghans if the war in their country is Jihad or not or if one of us say this is Jihad then he/she must go and join them. Since Jihad is farz (obligatory) upon Muslims, IK should bring his two sons from the UK and send them to Afghanistan to fight the foreign troops. Recommend

  • True Muslim Paki
    Oct 13, 2012 - 12:44PM

    What Imran said was right. He used the term jihad because he’s a Muslim. & most Pakistanis support him except for some liberal fascists here. He’ll come to power & let the majority of people decide in the next election.

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  • Oct 13, 2012 - 12:46PM

    typical behaviour! twisting words IK expressed that getting ur country free of forced foriegn occupation is jihad n he said so when he was asked a question and if UNO is so concrnd about terrorism then y dnt they allow China to act instead of USA. n for those who say IK wants to gain taliban support…. if IK wanted their support he wouldnot condemn the attack on malala or go to visit her.. n he said tribals n locals think they r doing jihad

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  • Liaqat Yousufzai
    Oct 13, 2012 - 12:54PM

    IK says “it is perceived as jihad” not “jihad”. Tribune should not distort the statement.

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  • Muhammad Rizwan Ali
    Oct 13, 2012 - 1:06PM

    Now this is very hard time for Imran Khan,
    What ever he has said for Afghanistan, JIHADRecommend

  • sanam
    Oct 13, 2012 - 1:07PM

    I was at the news conference. IK never said Taliban struggle is Jihad but that Taliban perceive their war to be Jihad. You can see that whole news conference on youtube, but damn that site is blocked. Also, we say that the Palestinian struggle is Jihad, Isn’t that interfering in another country’s affairs?

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  • DevilHunterX
    Oct 13, 2012 - 1:09PM

    Media Dictionary:

    Crusade = A-OK!

    Jihad = BAD!!!! BOO!! HISS!!!

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  • deep space
    Oct 13, 2012 - 1:14PM

    First the so-called stage managed farce of anti-drone peace march and now this jihad comment proves beyond doubt that Imran Khan is the chosen one of the deep state.

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  • Umar Nisar
    Oct 13, 2012 - 1:15PM

    the awkward moment when Afghanistan government start condemning Pakistan…..Pakistan please :P

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  • Mohammad Assad
    Oct 13, 2012 - 1:34PM

    Fighting foreign occupation is Jihad. If Imran Khan is wrong about Afghanistan then all of you are also wrong when you support anti India forces in Kashmir. And go two decades back and also ensure that you condemn the Bosnians for fighting against the Serbs. And back in the 80s, condemn the Afghans for fighting against the Soviets.
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    And then keep going back to 1857 and condemn your ancestors for fighting against the British.

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  • Moulvi Nawaz Shareef
    Oct 13, 2012 - 1:37PM

    @Fazil: Malalai’s attackers are in Afghanistan, for your info.Recommend

  • Bloom
    Oct 13, 2012 - 1:41PM

    IK is the most dangerous person for the whole region

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  • PakJam
    Oct 13, 2012 - 1:46PM

    lol… I see here many tax-payer funded Nooras claiming to be Ex-PTI…. funny…

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  • AS
    Oct 13, 2012 - 1:48PM

    PTI is heading for dooms day. thanks you IK exposed yourself much before we casted our vote

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  • FP
    Oct 13, 2012 - 1:49PM

    Asad Umar ‏@Asad_Umar

    @UmarCheema1 no he did not he said it is percieved by some as jihad. Amazed how tribune can distort so brazenly
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  • khalid usman
    Oct 13, 2012 - 2:17PM

    I think US forces are there in Afghanistan on annual vacations or on picnic? If not occupying force then what my ultra concious friends will label? And, if occupying force ,then?

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  • PakArmySoldier
    Oct 13, 2012 - 2:44PM

    @closey:
    I wake up at 4.30 everyday as a part of Army protocol. Don’t pass judgments on someone when you have no knowledge about him. It reflects poorly on your character.Recommend

  • Justin Truthful
    Oct 13, 2012 - 2:45PM

    Resistance to foreign invasion and to foreign occupation is a struggle, which in Arabic means “jihad.” So any struggle, by anyone, Muslim or otherwise, whether against a persons own sinning self of against a foreign invader is literally a “jihad.”

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  • JSM
    Oct 13, 2012 - 2:59PM

    If Imran Khan’s party comes in power, they will have a ready-made enemy- Pakistan under Imran Khan. How foolish of IK to talk like this.

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  • umer
    Oct 13, 2012 - 3:03PM

    the afghan government at time of russian war, were also saying the mujahideen were terrorists, and not jihad. same thing now, different occupying force.

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  • curious
    Oct 13, 2012 - 3:09PM

    I don’t think people actually listen anymore as what Imran Khan meant was a person’s personal struggles in life is called jihad.

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  • Singh
    Oct 13, 2012 - 3:25PM

    The best thing u can do to Allah is by promoting noble souls like Malala.. the brave girl… i have sympathy for u pakistan people being an Indian.. now i dunt have any animosity to u people but one hope plz be good to your fellow citizen and introspect how much havoc these illiterate talibans is spreading please purchase bread loaf not ammuntion for your people. Plz be humane Recommend

  • Oct 13, 2012 - 3:45PM

    to PTI supporters with a brain:
    “if jihad there, then why not here?”

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  • faryad jutt
    Oct 13, 2012 - 3:46PM

    IK is the most popular politician not only in Pakistan but out of the country he knows the thinking of all Cristian and Jews lobby that what are they doing against all of us and that’s the reason he wants to gathered all big countries like pakistan,china,india and iran…and he also knows that Afghanistan and Pakistan tribal culture is same and that’s why he talk about about this this issue and i think he all said good…Recommend

  • Haroon
    Oct 13, 2012 - 3:47PM

    He already cleared it out. He said ‘Afghan war wa ‘percieved’ as jihad’. So before judging anyone, just be clear on what the other person is saying.

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  • Ali Sadozai
    Oct 13, 2012 - 3:51PM

    how arrogant or ignorant can IK or any of us really be if we decide to define the urgency in Afghanistan as Jihad for the Afghanis. This is what our GHQ policy has been for a while now and the result is that Pakistanis are the most unpopular people today in Afghanistan even amongst the pushtun communities.

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  • faryad jutt
    Oct 13, 2012 - 3:52PM

    and one thing hamid karzai written a letter to imran khan for help his govt for war on terror and thats the reason imran khan give this statement….but media will never tell this fact..

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  • usman786
    Oct 13, 2012 - 3:54PM

    Ok ok I will give vote to AAZ or NS. Both are noble, do as they are told, no proved corruption/tax evasion charges, always work in interest of Pak, trust Pak doctors and get treatment from them, visionary and statesman etc. Kept foreign businesses as easy escape n refuge

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  • Oct 13, 2012 - 4:00PM

    @ M ahmer ali
    You are speaking on behalf of the terrorists ( Taliban ) and speaking the language of ISI, while confirming you are a typical PTI supporter. The war in Afghanistan is clearly terrorism against the Afghan people.
    How come killings of innocent in Pakistan is terrorism while killings of innocents in Afghanistan by the terrorist ( Taliban ) is jihad .
    If you have read the Hadees where it says that a Muslim should wish the same for his Muslim brother what he wishes for himself… So practice what you preach.

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  • Oct 13, 2012 - 4:07PM

    If Pakistan can interfere in Afghanistan, why should US interfere in Pakistan?

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  • Mahtab Rasheed
    Oct 13, 2012 - 4:41PM

    *I am a constant reader of ET. But Now I am getting a sense that ET is started to become biased. Please try to be neutral *

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  • True Muslim Paki
    Oct 13, 2012 - 5:12PM

    I don’t believe ET has twisted words or anything of what IK has said. The video is there on YouTube also. He’s honest, & truly stands for Muslims.

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  • Javed Iqbal
    Oct 13, 2012 - 5:17PM

    “We urge the Pakistani government to arrest people who support the Taliban,” Azimi said.

    Then may I respectfully ask Mr. Azimi why there Government and Americans are then so eager to have dialogues and settlement with the Talibans?

    Everyone has a right to offer his / her POV on the ongoing fighting in Afghanistan. May be my POV differs from Imran Khan while 100s may have same POV. There is nothing in it to be take so aggressively and thus making it an issue.

    When you make it an issue, then surely it will gain larger attention in Afghanistan, Pakistan and rest of the world and will further lead to new conflicts and support at the same time.

    Cool down, I would suggest.Recommend

  • Mubashir
    Oct 13, 2012 - 5:58PM

    Jihad? Against US invasion. Did we forget why the US invaded? Did we forget OBL (who used the US against the Soviets, but when the Soviets, left suddenly remembered that the US was the enemy?). Did the Afghans now allow militant training camps to be set up on their territory? Were those militants being trained to hit the Taliban government? If OBL was involved in 911 sitting in Afghanistan, what should have US done?

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  • Umer
    Oct 13, 2012 - 6:00PM

    Taliban Khan has gone totally nuts. Who is he to decide what is right or wrong in other countries? It’s clear interference in other people’s business.

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  • saleem
    Oct 13, 2012 - 6:14PM

    It is under sharia to kill all taliban> if you believe in islam then kill all taliban

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  • HADI SAKEY
    Oct 13, 2012 - 6:54PM

    This oxford educated Khan is TALIBAN KHAN. I trusted him when he re-entered in Politics. He is worst than Fazlullah of Swat.

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  • Waseem
    Oct 13, 2012 - 7:02PM

    ET where is news of Hamid Karazi’s letter to Imran Khan about his stance on drone attacks. I can see it on your urdu version, but not here? And its your urdu version that is updated quite late

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  • Raj - USA
    Oct 13, 2012 - 7:28PM

    **If Afghanistan is an Occupied Country, Pakistan is more an Occupied Country as it has been occupied by all foreign terrorists like Chechens, Uzbeks, Arabs , etc. Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and OBL his harem of woman from Yeman, Saudi, and other Arab countries was found in Pakistan. Sheikh Rasheed has called Mulla Omar Amirul Momin of Waziristan and Zawahiri is still in Pakistan. In fact, as per Sheikh Rasheed, Imran Khan has to obtain permission from Mulla Omar even to enter Waziristan. Mulla Omar denied permission and IK could not enter Waziristan. Not just that. Pakistan has been ruled by the Arab Sheiks from Saudi Monarch to Amirs of UAE and Qutar for a long time. NS and BB sought asylum in Saudi and Dubai. Saudi and UAE still own large tracts of fertile agricultural land in Pakistan which are no-go areas for any Pakistani. UAE had full control of Shamsi Airbase and could even lease it to USA without any permission from Pakistan.

    WITH ALL THIS, IK HAS THE AUDACITY TO TALK OF AFGHANISTAN AS AN OCCUPIED COUNTRY.**

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  • Pushtun voice
    Oct 13, 2012 - 7:29PM

    HAHAHA….Imran Khan is his own enemy. At this rate he will be luckty to end up with 3 seats in the National assembly

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  • bullS
    Oct 13, 2012 - 7:55PM

    Seriously ! what you call yourself when you fight a foreign occupation ? I hate these Pepsi Soda intellectuals of ET

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  • Umer
    Oct 13, 2012 - 7:56PM

    @True Muslim Paki:

    What Imran said was right. He used the term jihad because he’s a Muslim. & most Pakistanis support him except for some liberal fascists here.

    Why are you, Imran Khan and rest of PTI not fighting this Jihad in Afghanistan? Are you and him and PTI nor real Muslims who have an obligation to fight the Jihad?

    Hypocrites.

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  • Justifiably opinionated Afgha
    Oct 13, 2012 - 8:03PM

    @maestro,

    did you feed three million afghanis for 3 decades? wouw i didn’t know that thanks for the enlightment. seriously i think due to the money received by pakistani government and army for these afghan refugees pakistani state was able to build itself a nuclear bomb. if they had used it to feed ordinary pakistanis then today 30 million pakistanis would have had a better life. but they chose to pursue a path of destruction.

    if ET has tiny amount of courage then they would publish this afghans take on this whole IK saga:

    i think we as afghan know our religion much better than an ex-cricketer. i bet IK doesn’t even know how to pray properly. we have our own ulema who can gave us fatwa, we don’t need half politicians/half isi agents/half liberals and half talib leaders like IK to tell us to defend our country. we know and have proven time and time again how to do it. as pashtun i don’t consider someone who can’t speak pashto to be a true pashtun. so IK will never be a true pashtun if he doesn’t wish for the pashtuns of AFG the same as for pashtuns of Pakistan. in fact in my opinion he is more punjabi than the average punjabi. We as afghans were hoping this guy might have guts and call things by its name and would dare to rectify stupid policy drawn up by army and isi, but thanks god he showed his real face early in the discourse. he is just an ISI as is lal topi wala and hamid gul.

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  • Babbarsher Khan
    Oct 13, 2012 - 8:26PM

    The Kaptaan has gone beserk!

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  • Omer alio
    Oct 13, 2012 - 8:28PM

    Guys, if you read above anti PTI statements. Most of them were written by one person. Are people dumb ??.

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  • Afghan Khudai Khidmatgar
    Oct 13, 2012 - 8:33PM

    Pakistanis bloggers have turned the concept of jihad into a polemic to demonstrate their knowledge of Sharia and Islamic jurisprudence but what they lack is basic humanity and sympathy for their co-religionists across the Durand Line and their ethnic brethren in India that have suffered from these pseudo jihads.

    The majority of Afghans including Pashtuns hate the Taliban and don’t consider their struggle as jihad .They are tired of the terror and mayhem caused by these so called jihadis that are backed by Pakistan and people like Imran Khan.

    Fight jihad in your own country against the nexus of feudal landlords, bureaucrats, military and right wing Islamic organizations and realize the potential that the Quaid e Azam saw in the two state theory. Stop this false jihad it will engulf Pakistan and turn it into a cauldron where people will burn for ages. Recommend

  • dr. shafique
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:09PM

    Imran Khan has been putting nails in Pakistan’s coffin ever since he got this “divine inspiration” to take the reiins of power, no matter what the price. . God help the people of Pakistan if he ever gets any important office. It will be the end. The man speaks a different language anywhere he visits. His supporters are nothing but mobsters who will destroy the country. It was only after considerable public pressure that he yesterday decided to visit Malala in hospital. Until then, he was seeking refuge behind the usual platitudes and lip-service condemnation. He is an opportunist and, worse still, totally unpredictable and exploitative to gain power. People who vote for him don’t even know what they are doing: they are the most confused people on our planet.

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  • Nasim Mengal
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:21PM

    Love you Khan – There is direct US interference in our country and occupation in Afghanistan. I am not too worried about Afghanistan but we need to correct our mistakes and bring our house in order. Thanks for raising issue of killer drones. All politicians were mute and it is creating hatred in Pakistan and giving extreme elements in society cause to fight our army.

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  • Sultan
    Oct 13, 2012 - 10:51PM

    I think eager beaver, news hungry journalists should also exercise due care and listen to what is being said attentively before making paper selling sensational headlines out of. I played the Imran where he supposedly made this “gaffe” three time and it is quite clear that what he said is that anywhere anyone fights against foreign occupation, including in Afghanistan, it is a Jihad. In this context, he seems to be referring to a state’ s fundamental right to defend itself anywhere in the whole world, not just in Muslim countries!!!!

    Express Tribune wallahs, may I request that you also listen to the clip at least three times and perhaps then you will be a little less economical with the truth?

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  • Usman
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:03PM

    Afghanistan has a government?

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  • Oct 13, 2012 - 11:28PM

    IK was not taken out of context. He said what he said, despite what his most ardent defenders or apologists like to deny and twist it as. This is what was said from the first 24 seconds of the video provided by Tribune, translated from Urdu to English.

    http://tribune.com.pk/multimedia/videos/450148/

    “what you said about in Afghanistan, look, Jihad is a very simple thing, when I fight for my freedom, that is Jihad. This is the Quran’s verses – instructions. Whoever is fighting for their freedom is Jihad. So those fighting in Afghanistan against foreign occupation, this is Jihad.”

    He basically sympathized, condoned or justified the Taliban, overlooking their criminal acts of terrorism or attacks on Afghan civilians and giving credence to their claim of ‘fighting an occupation’ and ‘Jihad’.

    Of course Afghan Pashtuns and non-Pashtuns are upset and feel betrayed by IK, and other pro-Taliban hypocritical extremist Pakistani Muslims, for siding with who they consider criminals and terrorists and rightfully so.

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  • middle class pakistani
    Oct 13, 2012 - 11:29PM

    i wont vote for Imran Khan ..sorry sir i was a active member of isf but you are hopeless when it comes to countering terrorism

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  • Asad Khan Nasar
    Oct 14, 2012 - 12:00AM

    If you are not an Afghan then you are no one to judge that. If Afghans feel US is occupying then they are and if they feel they are liberator then they are. But IK has lost his senses that is for sure clear.

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  • Umer
    Oct 14, 2012 - 1:34AM

    It’s a foreign policy catastrophe from Imran Khan and he has not even come into power yet. Amazing.

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  • SK Ayubi
    Oct 14, 2012 - 1:49AM

    Yet another non-story pivoting on semantics some hyped up WSJ reading liberal at the Tribune has churned out. He’s been calling it a jihad for years. I’m yet to see a coherent piece criticising IK. Though there are massive problems within his party, he really is the best the country has to offer as of present.

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  • Ch. Allah Daad
    Oct 14, 2012 - 1:55AM

    No one in Pakistan takes him seriously therefore Afghans should do the same. He cannot win more than ten seats and won’t be able to get big slice in power structure to make any changes in foreign policy. PML(N) will form next government and if they could not deliver, nation will elect Malala. Imran is not in the picture for next thirty years.

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  • Bilal
    Oct 14, 2012 - 3:26AM

    I was imran staunch supporter, until he supported ISI backed Taliban. He is now a clean shaven Taliban to me.

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  • liberal-n-extremist
    Oct 14, 2012 - 5:09AM

    man i disagree with all of u saying it’s not jihad for most of the taliban it is jihad. in my opinion there are 2 types of taliban
    1. who are being helped by russian n indian gov, most of them are leaders of taliban.
    2. thy’re new talib enrolled, which thick it is jihad for our rights and against america.
    2nd type are mostly pushton pakistanis who are very passionate about their religion. n will do anything for Islam. (Islam in pakistan is not the actual Islam). n this is the reason for increase in number of talibs after every american or pak army attack.

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  • Afghan Conscience
    Oct 14, 2012 - 5:23AM

    Pakistanis bloggers have turned the concept of jihad into a polemic to demonstrate their knowledge of Sharia and Islamic jurisprudence but what they lack is basic humanity and sympathy for their co-religionists across the Durand Line and their ethnic brethren in India that have suffered at the hands of these pseudo jihadis.

    The majority of Afghans including Pashtuns hate the Taliban and don’t consider their struggle as jihad .They are tired of the terror and mayhem caused by these so called jihadis that are backed by Pakistan and people like Imran Khan.

    Imran Khan should have the guts to call the TTP’s struggle against the state of Pakistan as jihad because they (Pashtuns) see Punjabis as occupiers of their land. Imran Khan who was married to a Jewish English woman and has fathered a child out of wedlock with another White Anglo Saxon woman should be the last person to talk about Islam or jihad.

    Fight jihad in your own country against the nexus of feudal landlords, bureaucrats, military and right wing Islamic organizations and realize the potential that the Quaid e Azam saw in the two state theory. Stop this false jihad it will engulf Pakistan and turn it into a cauldron where people will burn for ages.

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  • Ilyad
    Oct 14, 2012 - 7:57AM

    First the definition of jihad has to be corrected – it means struggle to improve ones self. A number of Muslim scholars have agreed to this definition of Jihad, especially after 9/11. Secondly, the jihad being referred to by IK, or some of the commentators, on this blog should refer to people fighting a war in Afghanistan – then it may be a jihad in the eyes of some for Afghanistan, if that spills over into Pakistan and is the reason for innocent deaths in Pakistan is not jihad but terrorism – and IK is siding with that.

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  • Farhan
    Oct 14, 2012 - 8:11AM

    I have always had a lot of love for our afghan neighbors. Pretty decent crowd. But frankly I can’t recall what value have they been to rest of the world in modern economic times. I think it is time they pull themselves together and start creating value for themselves. I for one would love to leave them alone and let them get friendly with others while learning to coexist with Pakistan. Get rid of foreigners, in any uniform, and present themselves as independent nation. A tall order given their geo strategic condition, but at least we need to be out of their hair. And BTW, please urgently ask millions of afghans to leave Pakistan and make home in their own beautiful land.

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  • Tariq
    Oct 14, 2012 - 9:57AM

    Dear Editor,
    I know you would not post this comment like my other comments. But using Imran Khan name people are reading your newspaper and you are attaining your objective. It does not matter whatever happens to Pakistan. Keep it Up!

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  • afghan
    Oct 14, 2012 - 2:16PM

    @Arslan:
    Soviet war was not Jihad, that was for Pakistan, US fever to empower locals by name of jihad,
    so pleas do some research before posting comments,

    Afghan

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  • afghan
    Oct 14, 2012 - 2:31PM

    @azad:

    afghan government talks about interference in internal affairs…
    well weren’t the afghan government responsible for giving shelter to brahamdagh bugti

    Is not Pakistan responsible for giving shelter to 10000s of terrorists, is not Pakistan responsible for supporting Queta Shora, Is not Pakistan who support Afghan Taliban, weren’t pakistan which allowed international forces in Karachi Harbor, what you call it jihad is a military operations on Afghan people,

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  • afghan
    Oct 14, 2012 - 2:38PM

    @KiJ:
    What is the war against a foreign occupier called then?

    what you call the miseries which created from jihad’s during 1990,
    why you first start jihad from your country,
    what you call sending children to war zones by name of jihad,
    what you call about the barbarians who claim to be Muslim,
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  • afghan
    Oct 14, 2012 - 2:54PM

    @jafir khan:

    if america occupies pakistan n if u dare to fight 4 ur own mother land then what would u like to be called ? A TERRORIST OR A FREEDOM FIGHTER? WAITING 4 UR REPLIES

    Already Pakistan is occupied by US and West, if US and West stopped their aid what will happened you know well, the army which you proud of it now is supported by US and still getting support from US, there was CIA bases and USA bases in Pakistan during SOVIET war in Pakistan, so if the same now exist in Afghanistan and they support Afghans to make army for you it is called jihad, start your jihad first from your country, we know how to defend our country,

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  • Oct 14, 2012 - 5:36PM

    keep it up imranRecommend

  • Adnan Khan
    Oct 14, 2012 - 8:08PM

    This, from a puppet of a Christian occupying force in Afghanistan. What else should we expect him to say ?.
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    For our indian audience and those liberal-fascists here, who have not had the occasion to visit a mosque yet, I would like to tell them that… every Friday, all across Pakistan, in hundreds of thousands of mosques, Pakistanis pray for the Mujahideen’s absolute victory and the total destruction of US/Allied forces who are occupying their land.
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    And how can you ask any Pakistani to be “neutral” ?. We have hosted 7-9 million Afghans for the last 30+ years. We have not kept them locked into camps, we opened our homes to them. They have visited our hospitals when they get sick, they study in our schools alongside us. They live next door to us. Many of them are Pakistanis, because they were born here. Hell with anyone who says that we shouldn’t care what happens to them next.
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    It’s india, a far flung pagan country who should mind it’s own business, when it comes to Afghanistan.
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    Pashtuns are 60% of Afghanistan. They will always rule Afghanistan. Better get used to it, bub.

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  • Mishrab
    Oct 19, 2012 - 12:40PM

    IK lost sense. He is sort of mix breed of JI & PML (N). Take a cold water shower man…..

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