The monster rising within us

Published: January 5, 2011

Malik Mumtaz Hussain Qadri, the bodyguard arrested for the killing of Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer, shouts religious slogans while being taken away by police after he was presented at a court in Islamabad on January 5, 2011. PHOTO: REUTERS

The member of the Punjab ‘elite’ force, Mumtaz Qadri, guarding Governor Salmaan Taseer who killed him had had himself included in the personal security squad of the governor during his visit to Islamabad. According to a report quoting an investigator who interrogated the killer, Qadri told his colleagues in the squad that he would murder the governor and that they should not fire at him because he would surrender after the act. It seems that the squad let him do the job, acquiescing in it, after his colleagues had called him a junooni (fanatic). That the man was removed from the Special Branch earlier because he was a ‘security risk’ should have caused senior officers to take him off the governor’s personal security detail altogether, but that did not happen. One is forced to assume that policemen are recruited without much regard for their orientation. Like lawyers, most policemen come from small cities and rural areas and have an extremely conservative worldview. Since the police is the vanguard of the fight against so-called Islamic outfits like al Qaeda and the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), strict screening is necessary but is not done.

Controversy over the blasphemy law has been tragically divided on the basis of Urdu-English readership vis-a-vis the print media. The Urdu press has maintained a conservative point of view close to the clerical consensus developed through an aggressive campaign by the Deobandi-Ahle Hadith-Barelvi schools of thought. Mumtaz Qadri could have only read the more emotive stance taken by the Urdu press and TV channels where fatwa-like statements of religious leaders were being publicised. The prayer leader of the mosque he frequented probably did the rest of his brainwashing.

After the murder, over 500 clerics of the Barelvi school have praised Mumtaz Qadri for killing Governor Taseer, urging Muslims across the country to boycott the funeral ceremony. (It is likely that the khateeb of Badshahi masjid declined a request by the administration to lead the funeral prayers.) The message was: “No Muslim should attend the funeral or even try to pray for Salmaan Taseer or express any kind of regret or sympathy over the incident.” The fatwas regularly printed in the Urdu press had apostatised him for opposing the blasphemy law, completely ignoring the fact that objections raised by most experts were related only to the enforcement of the law.

Some thought the unprecedented clerical campaign was a mullah-military orchestration, but the truth is that instead of becoming a counterforce to the Deobandis and Ahle Hadith, the Barelvis joined the very elements that had attacked the shrines held sacred by them.

Intimidation works in Pakistan. Maulana Sarfraz Naeemi was killed by a suicide bomber after he opposed suicide bombing. Swat’s university chancellor and Islamic scholar Farooq Khan was killed after he condemned the enforcement of the so-called Islamic punishments in Orakzai Agency. Enlightened Islamic scholar Javed Ahmed Ghamidi was challenged again and again till his school was attacked and he simply removed himself from the discussion of the blasphemy law to which he was opposed.

Who organised the latest campaign against the government, after a PPP MNA brought a proposed amendment bill to parliament? Despite the intellectual consensus that only the procedures needed to be changed to prevent abuse of the law, and the government’s disavowal of any amendments in the law, the virulent campaign continued. A UN-banned jihadi outfit declared in its banned publication that it had organised the campaign by calling together all the leaders of the religious parties. The jihadi organisation is internationally recognised as a state-protected outfit and has been noted as a close collaborator of al Qaeda inside Afghanistan. The TTP’s deputy leader, Maulvi Faqir Muhammad of Bajaur, has already declared his organisation’s backing to the campaign.

The Federal Shariat Court, in its recent verdict, has thrown out procedural changes made in rape cases where women — the victims — are actually victimised under the law, more or less, like victims of the blasphemy law. This has unfolded within the general trend of making Pakistan ready for an al Qaeda takeover whose leader, Ayman al Zawahiri, has written a critique of the Pakistan Constitution, negating the present order in the country and proposing a new one, more in agreement with the madrassa clergy. Some madrassas are even distributing the Zawahiri constitution in Pakistan. Is it intimidation pure and simple, or is it a sign of the nation making ready to welcome a new order under the terror of al Qaeda and the TTP?

Politicians are taking cover. In Punjab, the ruling party is gradually turning away from its more pacific Barelvi hinterland in central Punjab to the more powerful jihad-oriented Deobandi centres of power in the south. No one wants to be killed like Governor Taseer. Who can prevent police employees from following in the footsteps of their masters? The PPP prime minister is leaning on his Syed origins to say he could not allow any changes in blasphemy law because he was a descendant of the Holy Prophet (pbuh).

All our wounds are internal. They are not inflicted by Blackwater, Mossad or RAW but by our own extremism. Senior police officers who come on TV to say that terrorism targeting innocent people is actually perpetrated by a “foreign hand” should take a look at the men they recruit to look after ordinary people. It is quite clear that no reorientation is imparted to men after recruitment into the police department. The cleric is free to inject into them whatever pre-modern ideas of governance and retribution he has grasped with his narrow mind. Extremism is Pakistan’s social response to al Qaeda’s cruel domination.

It is often said that terrorists — and extremists who side with them — are let off by the courts because Pakistan’s prosecution of cases is below par and that the quality of policemen is poor. But it is also true that if an accused is not a terrorist and is poor, he has short shrift in our lower courts. Besides, many sessions courts have begun giving punishments which indicate that the courts themselves are becoming conservative. In many parts of Fata, the TTP already cuts off people’s hands, as if setting up a model to emulate.

Published in The Express Tribune, January 6th, 2011.

Reader Comments (52)

  • Jan 5, 2011 - 11:52PM

    Good article. The problem is that your view is held by a minority in Pakistan. Or only dared voiced by a minority. Pakistan’s biggest threat is the internal extremism, but if it was only that then it could at least take steps to containing it. The country is ravaged by social, cultural, economic problems as well as a war with India, the Taliban, America on several fronts. Pakistan is only a hair’s breadth away from being a failed state. And as ignorance breeds and multiplies within it, it’s hard to see if anything can save it now.

    The nation needs a progressive government built on the foundation of a liberal and courageous electorate. Where are either of those?Recommend

  • Sara
    Jan 6, 2011 - 12:34AM

    It is really shameful. We are not Muslims. we are Barelvi, Deobandi, Shia or what else, but not Muslims, If say that i am only muslim then people think it another sect.

    This sectarionism, and narrow mindedness will destroy our society. Recommend

  • D. Asghar
    Jan 6, 2011 - 12:36AM

    Brilliant and spot on.Recommend

  • Anoop
    Jan 6, 2011 - 1:53AM

    This level of Radicalism existing in Pakistani forces is precisely the reason why the World fears dangerous nuclear substances will fall into Terrorist’s hands.Recommend

  • Jan 6, 2011 - 3:05AM

    Anoop- I am sorry to say but for humanity’s sake please dont behave like a poisonous mullah or an extremist member of Shiv Sena. Is it a right time to score points? You may think that we are all extremists but I know, as a Pakistani, we are a liberal and forward looking nation- in general. These mullahs don’t even represent 5% of our total population.Recommend

  • Minaa
    Jan 6, 2011 - 4:29AM

    Problem starts at the grassroot level.people who cannot afford to teach or feed their kids send them to these madrassas so that they can read and learn Quran and have decent meals twice a day,these kids are made to learn Quran by heart,without any knowledge of what it means and how it should be interpreted.this paired with the narrowmindedness that comes with illetracy,has in turn produced these radicals and extremists.and after so many years of the same cycle,i wonder if there is any chance of change.Recommend

  • Ramesh
    Jan 6, 2011 - 5:40AM

    I have no words to thank Mr. Jinnah for what he did for India.Recommend

  • Zeeshan
    Jan 6, 2011 - 8:50AM

    @ Sara

    How will you defend Mr. Jeffrey Hatcher now? We must have courage to recognize if something is wrong within us.Recommend

  • Khurram
    Jan 6, 2011 - 8:50AM

    “All our wounds are internal. They are not inflicted by Blackwater, Mossad or RAW but by our own extremism.”

    Everyone knows that all wounds are internal but by people and newspapers paid by Blackwater, Mossad or RAW.Recommend

  • Amadeus
    Jan 6, 2011 - 9:50AM

    I’m a human first, then everything else.Recommend

  • Truthy
    Jan 6, 2011 - 10:23AM

    @Anoop , Indira Gandhi was also murdered by her own Guards, than why doesn’t world fears same regarding India, there are also Hindu extremists who could do any thing for their power.Recommend

  • Ali Agha
    Jan 6, 2011 - 10:47AM

    Quite an analysis and depiction of reality. However, nations go through such tough times in their history only to come out clear and more powerful. Pakistan, unfortunately, has become a hub of proxy wars sponsored by external elements. Yes, these are Pakistanis who are being radicalized, but who’s funding the publication of such reading materials and airtime on Media which is being read and watched by millions of to-be Qadris in Pakistan?

    Fanatics are everywhere in the world — I remember watching David Koresh burning the whole compound in Waco, Texas USA occuppied by himself and his followers to religously die in a successful attempt of mass suicide, and all this was done in the name of Jesus. At that point, I had realized, being naive and vulnerable, is the biggest cause of “Radicalization”, and it’s not confined to any geographical boundaries, but only to a state of mind.

    In Pakistan, the breeding ground for all these extremists are indeed Madrisaa’s. This tiny unit of education system, predominantly sponsored by external elemends like Saudi Arabia, entices the most vulnerable and naive minds of young Paksitanis, who after graduating from such plattforms, peneterate into the mainstream households. I grew up learning Quran only in Arabic from one of the same graduated person with a turban on his head, my wedding could not be arranged till we find another same candidate with a turban to conduct a ceremony, and Taseer Hadi, even after his death could not be burried underground till the community could find one of the same Turban headed mind set, allowing him to walk-in the Governor house to offer his funeral prayers.

    The big question is, why do we expect that these Turban headed mind set to remain confined to only rituals? They have tasted the power of religiously situational respect, and they will do their best to broaden it up to all spheres of our lives.
    Should we allow them to do it? If not, then :

    Convert Madrisaahs into mainstream Schools
    Ban the public display of turbans
    Recommend

  • Khurram
    Jan 6, 2011 - 10:55AM

    The same nuclear arsenal in the hands of radical Hindus and India becomes a blessing for the humankind. Dear myopic Anoop. At least have a balanced educated approach towards life.Recommend

  • Noreen Shams
    Jan 6, 2011 - 10:58AM

    we are facing division .. anyways good oneRecommend

  • G.Khan
    Jan 6, 2011 - 11:13AM

    @Anoop

    I have a Gift for you… check this out and tell me what world think about this?

    1) http://tribune.com.pk/story/98965/bjp-lawmaker-stabbed-to-death-by-school-principal/

    2) http://tribune.com.pk/story/99409/2010-bloodiest-year-for-indias-maoist-rebellion-minister/

    I will also invite Khalid Aziz and others here to check these facts against Anoops issuing false statements here. Now Tell us Anoop… Why should world not think about your Nuclear Program even severly risky? And By the way , instead of dodging and falsifying information , Name here Who is THAT WORLD? Your Fictitious world. Give me FIVE names of those ( your imaginary world) who think that about Pakistan and do not think about India? Do not Include India in that List . We do not count India. I would invite others here too to read these above articles and decide what he is saying is not a Lie.

    @ Anoop.
    For your information., I have a documentry in which children are sitting on drums of Nuclear waste in India and playing around those drums open in public. Want to see that report? Hope That will delight you more. Do me a favor. Stop Lying. Because I can tolerate anyone in this world But I just do not tolerate lies.Recommend

  • aamir gul
    Jan 6, 2011 - 11:30AM

    why doesn’t the media highlight the fact that this religous fanatic visited a religous congregation last month where speeches were made condemning salman taseer,sherry rehman & the crowd was exhorted to denounce anyone trying to debate the blasphemy laws??
    why are all our anchors so afraid of the phrase ” radical islam” or ” islamic fundamentalism” .we’ve lost thousands of our countrymen,women & children including both army & civilians yet no one in our media is willing to talk about the fanatical ideology motivating those killing us.Recommend

  • Sandy
    Jan 6, 2011 - 12:33PM

    Very well written !!! Bravo May your voice get weight in Pak We expect another military coup in Pak very soon to remove fanatism from Pak as it was nailed by army in Pak societyRecommend

  • Ashish
    Jan 6, 2011 - 12:56PM

    @Anoop: Even as an Indian – I find your views patronising and irritating – why do you persist in having a holier than thou attitude – If someone’s going through a crisis – that’s hardly the right time to remind them of their frailties – so simple advise – be constructive or risk being meaningless..Recommend

  • Manoj
    Jan 6, 2011 - 1:28PM

    @ Truthy & Khalid Aziz

    Yes, Indira Gandhi was killed by her body guard and also we have many terror outfits operating in the country. But we are not worried, because our leadership, common people and law enforcing agencies do not promote and enclourage such element. We listen and resolve the genunine demand if any of such outfits like we solved Mizo problem, Bodo problem, Naga and ULFA problem ( negotiation continues) and in other cases stren action as per law is taken to nip the terror act in the bud. We have many police official including home minister of Gujarat behaind the bar. Hindu religious leader and one army officer accused of bombing Samjhauta Express are behind bar without any bail for the last three years and there is no protest in support of such accused religious leader either from political party or common people.Hence, we are confident we will defeat terrorism.

    In Pakistan, army, IsI, common people, religious organisation all support to the Terror outfits. Army treats them as strategic Asset, People and religious party treat them Ghazi. Just see the support person like Hafiz saeed and killer of governer getting. Tell me in this scenerio how Pakistan will get rid of such anti social element.
    When the world says that there is chance of Pak Nuclear asset going in the hands of Terrorist, they do not mean to say that one fine morning Al Quida or Taliban will attack Pakistan army and defeat them and get hold on nuclear asset. The world know very well that Pak army is strong enough to defend itself. What they mean to say is that what happens, when society at large get radicalized and young men educated or otherwise is recurited for army from this mass base. There may time come, when these radicalized army officer will be incharge of nuclear asset of Pakistan and world will be at danger of facing the consequence.Recommend

  • fahad ikram
    Jan 6, 2011 - 1:33PM

    well, i think Tasser deserve what he did or what he was going to do

    but i also think that a alarming situation as well for PAKISTAN of how to overcome the growing lack of patience & tolerance in society like sialkot killings and now governer killingRecommend

  • Jan 6, 2011 - 2:23PM

    how ironic is the fact that the fanatics funded and brainwashed by the Paki govt is finally coming back to bite them.

    No tears for Pak.Recommend

  • Abhinav
    Jan 6, 2011 - 2:40PM

    @Anoop
    I think your remarks are uncalled of. If you want to change the situation in Pak, the way forward is to be constructive. Otherwise we Indians should refrain from making any comment, let them solve this mess themselvs. If they are successful probably we can also learn something from them. If they fail we should be prepared to handle the fallout.Recommend

  • Aslam Irani
    Jan 6, 2011 - 4:47PM

    @Khalid Aziz what is wrong with Anoop’s comments ? Imagine the consequence if Taliban takes stock of the Pakistan army’s nuclear arsenals ? This is a genuine cause of concern.
    But the way India is truly secular. Everyone belonging to any religion has his own right of speech. One has to remember that just 0.05% of the German population (nazis) were responsible for the second world war which was responsible for killing 6 million innocent jews.
    Though the percentage of fanatics in pakistan might be very little then have the ability to dictate a nation’s future.Recommend

  • Tazeen Fatima
    Jan 6, 2011 - 4:53PM

    I appreciate Express Tribune for publishing bold and though provoking articles. Can some one point me to at least one article in pakistani Urdu newspaper which condemns Taseer’s killing ? Recommend

  • Amer
    Jan 6, 2011 - 5:01PM

    @Anoop: You should be worried about your own nukes and the millions of hungry people who sleep on the streets. Recommend

  • disgusted
    Jan 6, 2011 - 5:59PM

    My blood boils seeing the garland around this man’s neck!! Are we so blind to see what monsters we have become!

    For the first time in my life, I hang my head in shame for being a Pakistani…Recommend

  • disgusted
    Jan 6, 2011 - 5:59PM

    My blood boils seeing the garland around this man’s neck!! Are we so blind to see what monsters we have become!

    For the first time in my life, I hang my head in shame for being a PakistaniRecommend

  • Jan 6, 2011 - 6:21PM

    @amer
    We also have individuals who can buy all the companies listed on karachi stock exchange individually.think positive ok
    Negative attitude will lead you to mess your country find itself in.Recommend

  • Jan 6, 2011 - 6:35PM

    Can everyone stop worrying about India and what an Indian commentator has to say! Nothing unites Pakistanis as quickly as getting defensive towards what someone from India says! Recommend

  • Akhtar
    Jan 6, 2011 - 6:44PM

    @anoop
    all pakistan has last insight
    they have no logic they attack thir own army mousqes shrines schools and others
    they need support and educationRecommend

  • Hrithic+Roshan
    Jan 6, 2011 - 7:23PM

    @Khalid Aziz.
    What about rest of 95% of Pakistanis???? Looks like they have no balls and the 5% of extremists holding other 95% hostages. Do not fool yourself. By keeping quit you are actually encouraging these mullhas to take over you. What a shame….:(Recommend

  • Sara
    Jan 6, 2011 - 7:49PM

    @ Manoj/ Anoop

    You should read the comments of G. Khan

    Stop caring others, first look into ur own matters. One or two incidents doesnt mean that whole society is involved. If Hafiz Saeed is not punished by our courts it means there are not sufficient proves against him, as per Indian’s statement: pakistan is involved in Mumbai Attacks, Just tell me, Is it possible that 4-5 people sit in a tube boat, entered some hostile territory, not familiar to a place, and did such a bid incident. Where were ur security agencies, ur maritime agencies? Which is ur border security?

    Just this that any person can hang the whole Mumbai city.

    All the doziers provided by India to Pakistan, all comprises on mere documents, not pet proves.

    And what about the missing matter of Indian Nuclear Scientists, and the Nuclear material leakage incident in New Delhi?

    Raise finger on others, when you yourself is clean.

    Remember: Pakistanis are sleeping’ dont think them Dead. Recommend

  • Neeraj, India
    Jan 6, 2011 - 8:00PM

    @Manoj
    Well said mate.
    @Ashish & Abhinav
    Now, look at the today’s Pakistan. More than Salman Taseer’s murder, I was saddened by the fact that, the heinous act received approval from common Pakistanis. Not just that, the murderer himself has become a hero for a large section of Pakistani society. He is being bestowed with religious titles and hailed as a true muslim. The country is fast descending into darkness.
    Please, remember next ISI Chief, Army Chief and of course the next Marshal-law- Administrator are growing up somewhere in this badly distorted and twisted social environment which is making it an unstable country, with nuclear weapons. Recommend

  • SH
    Jan 6, 2011 - 9:06PM

    Very well written and spot on! The extremism and intolerant attitudes we see as becoming more prevalent among common people is symptomatic of the spread of the narrow minded ideology of hate being spread by the fanatic clergy and this needs to be countered. Publishing articles like this in the Urdu media would be a good start. Since Express Group happens to run a widely viewed and respected urdu channel, perhaps they could spearhead the campaign to retake our country and once again move towards the secular state that was meant to be Jinnah’s Pakistan. History lesson: parties like the Jamaat-i-Islami opposed partition…handing over control of Pakistan now hardly seems acceptable!Recommend

  • lkhan
    Jan 6, 2011 - 9:32PM

    Extremely informative editorial, extremely depressing too. By the way not 5% but 50% of Pakistanis today are considered extremist.Recommend

  • mansoor ahmed
    Jan 6, 2011 - 9:41PM

    This monster shall be charged under blasphemy law for defaming our holy land in the entire world. We shall make an amendment in the dark law, for charge against defaming, Pakistan. Recommend

  • syed maududi
    Jan 6, 2011 - 10:25PM

    our plight is caused primarily by the fact that our ruling elite has no connection with the aspiration of most of the people.
    the reason why many people may have applauded this killing is due to greater frustration and lack of direction.
    ST was seen as part of that ruling group that are corrupt to the core and pitiless on the plight of the people.
    our president himself, went to tour europe during massive floods; gillani was flirting with angelina jollie on the same occasion.
    thousands of pakistanis have been killed by drone strikes. none had a trial or were convicted. our enlightened elite simply don’t give a squat about them.
    then how can the elite expect compassion.

    Did Rahman Malik do the janaza?Recommend

  • Neeraj, India
    Jan 6, 2011 - 10:32PM

    @Ashish & Abhinav and others,
    Please, don’t respond to my comment above, because it has been so thoroughly edited(twisted) by the wise moderators of ET that my published comment has not only just lost it’s inherent logic, but also projects me as an idiot. I can only hope that the moderators, at least, for this time, do muster enough moral courage to publish my this post without any distortions.
    There are mullhas everywhere!Recommend

  • Anoop
    Jan 7, 2011 - 12:32AM

    @Truthy,

    But, India had a solid base of well-developed institutions to absorb the loss which happened more than 3 decades ago.

    Pakistan is vulnerable to violence spiraling out of control! Frankly, its pretty scared to be the Pakistan’s neighbour in its present form.Recommend

  • Agastya
    Jan 7, 2011 - 2:21AM

    Dear Bloggers,

    All is not lost for Pakistan-this unfortunate incident should become a blessing in disguise for the educated secular peace loving intelligent mass of Pakistanis to help formulate the simple platform of Economic revival. There is no rocket science to it but an arduous path of self belief that you all can. If China can India could why not YOU.

    Life is to live love and let live, Swami Vivekananda’s quote ”We believe not only in universal toleration, but we accept all religions as true.” holds good for all society at large in today’s floating dimensions of world boundaries.

    How does it matter if we claim that we have more Muslim brothers than the entire population of Pakistan in India what is more important is to believe in the concept of divinity lies in every human being and one respects that fact of life. ”That many people that many paths” a profound statement from Sri Ramakrishna relates the simple reality of belief in faith.

    Mullahs Pundits and the Priests are all the same with as much divinity inside them as we have it within us.

    PeaceloverRecommend

  • vish
    Jan 7, 2011 - 11:29AM

    @Khalid Aziz

    Then Why so late wakeup man, save your country from this 5% fanatics, why did you modarates made them to grow, see the status of Shiv sena they simply cry here but they are out of power for more than a dacade
    but you cannot do anything to these 5% fanatics, but you help Mr. 10% to hold topmost position. if you people don’t change the attutude of yours whom do you expect to change’
    Look at your self the entire world doubts at you, nobody believes in what you say. these are the makings of your own nobady helped them to hold your head, it is you who helped them to hold 95% of so-called improvised people on these fanatics
    if you think you are 95% then atleast show the beginning and we believe you have the guts to fight againt these fanatics.
    god save your land from these fanatics (5%)Recommend

  • ashok sai
    Jan 7, 2011 - 2:31PM

    @ Sara

    Even if we Indians try to forget the past and come forward, people like you wont let that happen. By reading your(G.Khan) comments, it is pretty sure that where Pakistan is heading. Btb, show any one of Indian’s comment which laughs off sad incidents in Pakistan whether it is being an assasination, natural disaster, suicide bombings etc.,

    ‘Attitude defines Altitude’

    P.S. For understanding the role of Pakistani Terrorists in Mumbai attacks, just type ‘mumbai attacks’ in any of the search engines. Also I wish sane Pakistani civilians a better future.

    RegardsRecommend

  • Abhinav
    Jan 7, 2011 - 5:32PM

    @Neeraj
    Do you think present Pak ISI cheif, Army cheif etc. are any better? I salute you for your optimisim.
    I think we should be ready for the worst. If things comeout good in Pak that will be a pleasant surprise.Recommend

  • Suresh
    Jan 7, 2011 - 6:30PM

    If Qadri’s and Jinnah’s photos are kept side by side, I am sure, Qadri will receive more garlands than JInnah. It is true, that in Pakistan as in other countries, there are 5% of bad elements, but this majority common man’s admiration of Qadri is baffling. Qadri himself may be a good person ( not a dacoit, rapist etc) but the deeds of this innocent man and his supporter would invite great danger to the region. When they succeed, they would soak the green flag in red.Recommend

  • Suresh
    Jan 7, 2011 - 7:14PM

    The moderators have completely removed my post. What I was trying to say was, if on one side there are 5% bad elements playing their dangerous religious games, on other side is common man who without any avenue to express his dissent with so many short comings of the state effecting him, and absence of leadership to lead their struggle for socio-political aspiration at grass root, find solace in and accept men like Qadri and his acts as heroic. Basically, what a political movement takes the shape of religious movement. Even though, the so called 5% bad elements have no chance of taking over the country, when the majority common man’s struggle takes the shape of religious movement ( which has no intention of establishing a theological state), they, the 5% may succeed!Recommend

  • G.Din
    Jan 7, 2011 - 7:23PM

    @Ramesh
    “I have no words to thank Mr. Jinnah for what he did for India.”
    Mr. Jinnah did no favour to India, Ramesh. It is our own leaders, Nehru and the Sardar chiefly, who refused to go along with Jinnah who wanted quotas and set-asides for Muslims and did not want “one man-one vote”. Even while British ran India, provincial assemblies were run by Congress Party and Muslim League. The way they ran their governments was anarchic and quite akin to how they are running Pakistan today. So, you should thank our own leaders for not allowing Jinnah a free pass. Boy, what a mess we would have been in today,had our leaders not bit the bullet and decide to let Muslims go their separate way. Gandhi, however, was adamant to the last against partition. Mercifully, he was democrat enough to see the writing on the wall before the British quit..Recommend

  • Anoop
    Jan 7, 2011 - 7:43PM

    @G.Din,

    Sorry to jump in. I am of the opinion that Partition was inevitable. This was the best possible solution. The Muslims who stayed back for various reasons realized in 1971 how flawed the 2 nation theory was.

    There was a lot of bloodshed during partition, but think of the alternative, it would have been lot worse in my opinion. Nehru and Patel gave India stability it so badly wanted.Recommend

  • Sara
    Jan 7, 2011 - 7:49PM

    @ Ashok sai

    What i wrote is true. Act of one person cant represent the whole society. Yes world supporting India on Mumbai Attacks because Indians are very good about propaganda, You people present ur case very well, while we are not as much good in this respect,but it doesnt mean we are gulity. If Pakistan is really involved why World not pressuring Pakistan to take steps in this Regards. I already said what india provided,is not sufficient to sentence any body. Our courts are quite free, not Blind. Secondly any sensible person can calculate whether is it possible from Pakistani Land or not without local support?

    Think about it and accept faults with open heart.

    This is not matter of Indian or Pakistani, its matter of lives of more than billions of people. Wrong perception can harm the relations. Recommend

  • Sara
    Jan 7, 2011 - 8:22PM

    @ Suresh

    I agree with you.Recommend

  • ashok sai
    Jan 8, 2011 - 10:22AM

    @ Sara

    “The World not pressuring Pakistan”, do really mean that ? Pls do some reading before you react. Btb, do you know Headley ? I presume you safely say ‘No’ :).
    What fault do you want me to accept ? I know that your courts are free since you are approching UN for Benazir’s murder case. Let me ask you one question, what will happen to the thug who murdered the Governor ?.

    Again We are not saying the Innocent Pakistan civilians were involved in Mumbai meham, it is few home grown terrorist we are pointing, by defending those animals you are proving that where you belongs to.Recommend

  • abhinav
    Jan 10, 2011 - 4:27PM

    @Sara
    every one knows how free Pakistani courts are. They found Asia bibi worthy of death penalty on the basis of some vague evidences, but I am sure they will find it hard to punish Qadri. Recommend

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