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The writer is a barrister and a public policy graduate from Harvard University mahreen.khan@tribune.com.pk
This past week has seen columns, in these very pages, promoting a new brand of hatred – self-hatred – inciting loathing amongst Pakistanis for themselves and their culture. Using the horrific Sialkot killings, these “western, liberal” columnists have labelled all Pakistanis as “degenerates” and “barbaric”, hurling abusive and shameful generalisations to justify a verbal lynching of Pakistan, its culture and people.
The thrust of one column was as follows: the Sialkot murders mean that ALL Pakistanis should now view themselves as “human cockroaches” that should be “quarantined” from the rest of the world. So what should the wretched Rwandans call themselves? They wiped out half of their population in a killing spree. Is quarantine enough or should they be culled to prevent them exporting their genocidal tendencies? A liberal fatwa is issued: due to the Sialkot atrocity all Pakistanis are now “undeserving of sympathy”. Not even the ones stranded in swirling waters, bereft of food and shelter, not the millions of hardworking labourers, drivers, and builders who toil in foreign lands to support families back home, not even the ones who have been maimed by terrorists, none of them.
The article “Don’t act surprised” penned by an Englishman resident here for a few years is full of gross generalisations, defective reasoning and inflammatory one-liners: “We (sic) are, and have always been, a barbaric, degenerate nation revelling in bloodlust (sic).” Firstly, his arrogance in speaking for all Pakistanis, particularly to emit such defamatory and prejudiced words, is nauseating. Next, the claim that the horrific violence during Partition was “revelled in” and gave “heady, almost orgasmic delight” is a blatant perversion of history. Muslims were more the victims of communal violence, as documented by various noted historians who also describe the role of the departing British colonisers as culpable.
This “bloody” Partition is used by George Fulton to conclude that Pakistan has always been a “barbaric and degenerate nation”. An intellectually feeble extrapolation, as most nations are born out of violence or war. Israel, in 1948, was born out of the terrorisation and forced displacement of Palestinians — tales of which are regaled with much pride to this day by Zionists, their chief leaders even going on to become Israeli prime ministers. Does Mr Fulton think that “Israel is a barbaric and degenerate nation revelling in bloodlust”?
He goes on to state that the Sialkot lynchings are typical of Punjabi culture because Maula Jutt movies prove Punjabis are a bloodthirsty, vengeful lot. So the popularity of gore fests like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre prove that Americans, who also spend hours playing violent video games killing, maiming and torturing for entertainment and relaxation, obviously “celebrate barbarity and vengeance” as per the writer. Attributing the propensity for violence to a specific culture or race is the bigoted reasoning of a racist. Africans were also called “degenerates”, “uncivilised barbarians” who deserved to be enslaved due to their “savage” ways.
These columnists would not dare to write in such sadistic terms about western cultures. No, they only prey on weak – pure lynch mob mentality – developing nations like Pakistan, battered by natural catastrophe, war and poverty. The reality is that Pakistanis are inherently no better and no worse than any other people. The best amongst us lay down our lives to rescue those in need, open our homes and hearts to complete strangers, protest peacefully for justice. The worst amongst us are as brutal as the mobs which massacred women and children in the streets of Gujarat, with the Indian police looking on, harbour as much bigotry as the preachers of hate, whether they be Christian, Hindu, or Muslim. When the rule of law is eroded, men, irrespective of race, turn into an unruly mob – as evidenced by numerous studies and the good citizens of New Orleans who looted and rampaged in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina – police officers turn into executioners and ordinary people into accomplices. Pakistanis will and must maintain pressure to obtain justice in Sialkot. They will do so not out of self-loathing or in response to the verbal lynching liberals, but because they believe it is the right thing to do.
Published in The Express Tribune, August 28th, 2010.
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What is so wrong with Maula Jutt?
Agreed with every bit of it – a comprehensive way to shut up those who think they can say anything about us. excellent.Recommend
There is one major differences between mobs of India/West and Pakistan.
Pakistan’s exclusive traits:
1) Certain set of people are Institutionally discriminated,for instance Ahmadis are barred from calling themselves Muslims. India and West,its constitution or its laws dont discriminate against any set of people.
2) Pakistan’s institutions promoted Terrorism in neighbouring states. Needless to justify my claim. Open any newspaper in the world and type “Pakistan+Terrorism” in the search engine.
3) Pakistan’s education system-state owned or otherwise, promote hatred against Hindus,Christians and even other Muslim sects.
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=20108\25\story25-8-2010pg3_5
So in view of all the above “specialties” of Pakistan it cannot be considered worthy to be compared with the likes of India/West. When mob mentality takes over it takes a different dynamic and it spurned on by grave intitutional blunders as mentioned above. Pakistani Constitution,laws and Institutions promote hatred and bigotry. The author conveniently overlooks this fact and compares with the mob behaviors in India and the West. Miss Mahreen Aziz Khan, whenever there is institutional discrimination against a set of people mob hysteria attains a different dimension. The way mob behaved in Sialkot recently, the whole of Pakistan has contributed to it.
I am guessing you have a Pakistani passport. Than, you must have signed this bigoted piece of document.
http://changinguppakistan.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/picture-2.png
See,what I mean? So, you have contributed to the Sialkot mob’s anger and intolerance.
Fazi Zaka is right after all.Recommend
But we adore our black sheeps. We call them maulanas, we call them mujahids.
Hey I bet the people hitting and watching were all fasting to curb their Shaitan. Sorry guys you are the demons.Recommend
Hi the writer of this article, have you ever heard of something called satire? That is what the cockroach comment was. The right wing nuts cannot be expected to know this anyway!!!Recommend
great article. We need more people like you.Recommend
excellent stuff!
people need to be answered when they insult pakistan.
this article does the job!Recommend
Beautifully written. 100% agree.Recommend
Very well written article – very articulated indeed.
There is no second opinion about the fact that Sialkot episode is an act, we all should condemn. But still we are not the worst. Did we ever attack a ship having group of peaceful people (including internationally renowned journalists and NGOs members aboard, carrying food and medicinal stuff for a helpless nation, under attack by a state – unlawfully protected by Uncle Sam?Recommend
let me agree with Mahreen, in fact majority of us is peace loving and loyal to law of humanity and country as well but we are suppressed by a corrupt and prejudice minority. whatever is the case we should confess that we are responsible to make this minority as representative of us.
thanks Mahreen, you just encourage me to see a positive face of picture.Recommend
Zaka uses “guilt by association” technique to demonize Pakistan. It is the lowest form of abuse.Recommend
Why are we defending ourselves as Pakistanis? Where was this patriotism when the murders were taking place?
Is it the first one of its kind? No.
People are too scared to walk on the streets fearing it will be them in the next random shooting, suicide bombing, or just getting killed by an angry mob.
Where is the law placed? Where are the Human Rights? Or do we not need them because we are fanatics?
I am ashamed to be a Pakistani and agree with Fulton, I don’t find the need of defending an article. We are needed to be reminded that this behavior is unacceptable.Recommend
Whatelse can you expect from a right-winged dogmatic person even if h/she is a graduate from Harvard.Recommend
@ Zoya Sameen
The writer is a Harvard Graduate. I am pretty sure she knows what she is talking but.
For everyone else, how come we never talk about Robert Pickton, A Canadian, who raped and then murdered around 150 women.
How about people like the Virginia Tech guy who killed 33 people in a shooting spree.
There are tonnes of examples of western barbarianism, you just need to research it. And for the past 50 years America has been intruding countries and killing thousands of innocent people and carpet bombing places. very civilised eh !
And yea if you run into a native red indian, ask them what the Brits did to them. Literally slaughtered masses and masses of people.
For God’s sake drop the self pity. We are civilised people, dont extrapolite this issue and draw conclusions from it about all of Pakistan, beginning from 1947 uptil now.
And Zoya, most history books are tainted, the writers put down what favours their point of view and earns them big bucks. you want real history lessons ? sit down with someone who witnessed it all, like your grandfather or something. They’ll tell you the truth.Recommend
Since you are Harvard Graduate, Im sure you have lots in common with the average Pakistani. Yeah, right. Mr. Fulton is far more realistic in his approach to Pakistan then your approach to citing examples of savagery in other nations. Its ironic that you don’t realize that Mr. Fulton and other “liberal” columnists were describing precisely the delusional Pakistani attitude of pointing elsewhere when the blame lies closer at home as shown by your viewpoint.Recommend
@junaid hafeez
You’re the one sounding dogmatic. And how do you define right-wing? Anyone who defends Pakistan is automatically labelled right wing – if you defend Islam then you are labelled an extremist.
Superb article – great work. Keep it up.Recommend
You are absolutely correct. But something i want to add here, Well i believe that any act of barbaric nature will be condemned everywhere in the world and no body appreciate that either it happens in Pakistan, US or any where else. Pakistan is a country that is being ruled by turncoats. They are begging and beggars are not respected any where in the world. It is not first time the media started humiliating Pakistan but i guess we people are giving too much to the so called leaders in the country, making debates sitting at home but doing nothing against the unruly rulers. This is where the shoe pinches.Recommend
Our cricket team have yet again delivered to us the pride and joy we have yearned for at a time of need. Mehreen, I read the first paragraph and after the events unfolding in the UK regarding our beloved cricket team, who represent us at the highest level on the international platform, I did not feel compelled to read anymore.
You are fooling yourself and the readers. Pakistan requires a revolution and the people of Pakistan must begin by criticising what is wrong; God on mouth and evil at heart will not do anymore. From the youngest and poorest to the eldest and wealthiest, PAKISTANIS CHANGE YOUR LIFE. Think about what YOU are doing for YOUR country and not what OTHERS are doing or not doing. This is the difference between a failing nation and one that is prospering.Recommend
In the presence of police personals
they were killed,
Justice ranked investigator investigated
and declared the conclusion,
according to the report produced by him to the authority concerned
both the persons who were real brother were innocent,
and a heinous crime was committed by police and the persons involved.
all the world saying it was a savage act committed in the presence of the persons relating to law enforcement agency,why are you differing the fact,
hear the voice of the mother of slain brothers,she is saying,there is no law and order
there is no law for poor people.
Fact of the day is that all are corrupt,there is corruption from head to toe,
how much have you received for this pleading.Recommend
Why should we care what rest of the world does? Typical Pakistani way of escaping self accountability.Recommend
A very balanced & positive article by Mahreen.All societies in the world have their fair share of good and bad, and so do we.The point is,to keep a positive approach & put in place systems/mechanisms to deal with such incidents,ensure strict accountability & non-recurrence of the same.Recommend
It is not for anyone to point out the problems and highlight our weaknesses every single day in an article in the newspaper, delighted to have done something constructive in life, to have evoked a sense of responsibility in your people. If these articles were written to straighten out “the mob” standing by and watching the brutal lynching of those two young boys then just the fact that it was written here, at the Express Tribune negates that very purpose. To reach out to the masses of Pakistan, go out on the streets and talk!!! Writing and reading is an idea our developing nation still hasn’t caught its head around. So appealing to the masses with a well structured article lecturing the masses on their lax attitude, in English might I add, is not for the masses at all! We are all well aware of the state our country is in and we do not expect to gain some sort of sympathy but being reprimanded with insults every day is not going to help fix this attitude either, go down and get your hands dirty or shut up & keep staring! It is the duty of each and every one of us to ‘help’ the country in its time of need and I assure you this verbal lynching is doing no such thing. This ongoing charade of degrading the nation that feeds you is as brutal a betrayal as the lynching of those two boys, and if someone sees that and is brave enough to stand up and advocate her nations vulnerable state then I Salute her.Recommend
I agree with her.
We need to improve ourselves a lot. We have a lot of shortcomings but it’s true that these western people should not do the crime of lynching against Pakistani nation in the name of humanitariansim. We shoud also not forget that these so-called liberal societies played a major role in the destruction of our society and its values.Recommend
Brilliant article.
This incident seems to lead a lot of people to denounce Pakistan and all that it stands for (unless I’m mistaken and its a ritual banter for them after every incident). We have a problem here, I disagree with anyone cursing the country. If I curse it along with you, I’ll be part of another albeit bigger angry mob who has no solution and wants to vent its anger somewhere. So there you guys are, with a stick, lynching Pakistan. Whats next? A muslim commits a crime and we’ll be back at it, ‘ashamed to be muslim’.
Then we can seek out more trash for public self-humiliation. The people seem to love it and it gets more approval these days.
As far as how different are we from other nations goes, read up the American civil war, and how half their nation actually fought to continue slavery. How long did it take from slavery to the first black being allowed on a public bus? The French revolution, where people’s throats were slit by mobs if the cloth they were wearing was found embroidered. I’m not justifying the sialkot acts. I’m telling you this because, we’re still a lot better off and have a living breathing conscience and there’s hope.Recommend
indeed Great Anylsis,
frist time seen a great anylsis by a Howard graduate.Peoples like Gorge Fluton always agaist Pak and Muslims and what they trying to prove
Writter please sugesst him
WW1 2 Million killed,
WW2 3 Million Killed,
About several millions killed in afganistan Iraq sepratly in last few years why dont thy can wrrite on the same
Caused they only Baised with usRecommend
Excellent article Mehreen…. feels good to know that we still have some people in this country who speak up and speak up with facts and care enough to fight back when filth against the country is published!
thumbs up!!Recommend
Yes we are cockroaches. Fasi was right.
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Finally someone spoke up for the ‘good’ of the few rather than the ‘bad’ of the many. What people need to remember is that there are a few big fishes in the pond that are making the entire water dirty.We need to be positive,be aware and know that even if our past is full of darkness and our hearts full of regrets, we need to move on and reinvent our future.very well written Mahreen Khan.Recommend
@Hasan
Don’t bring that unverified story here. Read other newspapers. Its a story run by a British Tabloid. That alone speaks a lot for its veracity. You might not be aware of their reputation.
Every newspaper is quoting the story as ‘allegedly’. A word that is used in almost every sentence. The videos are without timestamps. The pictures are without exif data. Its an accusation with sensation. Nothing more, unless its verified.
Check another British news agency and the words they use:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11122388Recommend
ts nice to live in Utopia, but just look at the Pakistan cricket team honey! We constantly surprise ourselves by attaining new lows! And then vehmently ignore the reality with our ‘optimism’. Pakistan is neither the first nor the last nation gone wrong, but denying that it has gone wrong is as self destructive and delusional as is self pity and self loathing. Besides in a democratic Pakistan people should have the gutts to express view points without judging or being judged.Recommend
Two words: Thank You.Recommend
There are good people and bad ones too.. everywhere in this world. .I dont think there’s any point in arguing about that although at the same time ,its not wrong to oppose the act of assuminhg as to what kind of people pakistanis are just on the basis of what a mob of people did out there.
But what is needed of all the pakistanis is to actually rise against this barbarity. .and that can never be done just by telling how sorry you are or how horrible you think this incident was. .it can actually be done by choosing those people to be in power who can actually prevent any such thing happening in the country and even if it does happen,can provide justice to those who suffer and punish the wrongdoers in such a way that anything of this kind is prevented and taken care of in the future. ..and that power rests and will always do with the people. .its just about using it at the right time in the right way. .Recommend
Nature may overlook individual sins. But when nations commit sin it renders its harsh punishment. No nation is immune to such punishment. There are no exceptions to this law of requital. What one sows is what one reaps. Engaging in blame game is simply a waste of time.Recommend
@Umar farooq – “since you are a harvard graduate you have a lot in common with the average pakistani” – George Fulton is an Englishman and Fassi is an Oxford Graduate working for the british council – so Umar your point is just irrelevant.Recommend
@Mahwish : Honey! They are allegations and you’re assuming they are guilty is just as unjust as the Sialkot lynch mob assuming the boys were guilty. You are displaying the same lack of consideration. the tabloid press is notorious for “sting operations” – and remember the ridiculous allegations that the team were involved in “murder” of Bob Wollmer in 2007 when in fact he died of natural causes.
You guys are in utopia – unwilling to see the deliberate targeting of Pakistan. Every country has faults – ours are magnified and presented to the wholeworld. Others arent.
I agree with the article- excellent, sensible and logical arguments.Recommend
It’s amazing how quickly Pakistanis will believe the worst about their own. The same people who claim to be the liberal ones are now gloating over the cricket scandal. That means you dont have any sincerity for Pakistan.Recommend
@Anoop – I disagree with you and am tired of India Shining tyoes like you. India has such degrading poverty and massive discrimination at all levels against Dalits, Christians and Muslims. We have no right to sling mud at Pakistan. Please. Our own society is crumbling under the weight of corruption too. And Gujrat was rightly mentioned in the article as it was doen under the eyes and with collusion of the policemen.
I think the western media deliberately targets developing (non white) countries. You cannot deny it.Recommend
I think you missed the point of those authors …we always have some excuse what we did and never accepted our mistakes…..how long we will be lying to our selves? how long we will be closing our eyes by looking at problems…some day we need to address them……Recommend
True that the cricket team doesn’t give us much joy, given that we’re a country where coming second in a world cup is treated as defeat.
The context is not the performance of the cricket team, its about an allegation. The difference here is synonymous to fact and fiction. Just because we hit new lows very often, doesn’t mean that a third rate tabloid can run a smear campaign against us. The story is “alleged” and the worst part is, look who’s cheering the tabloid on! Where’s the self-respect gone?
It isn’t about living in utopia, its about owning your defeats and victories, in this case, reclaiming them.Recommend
Thank you so much for writing this. As this intellectual mob needs to be countered.Recommend
“Thanks the writer of this blogs who gives examples of other countries that made mistakes. – Wise people learn from their mistakes but wiser people learn from others mistakes.”
“Thanks the writer of other two blogs. – Accept constructive criticism in a positive manner. It only shows that the giver cares.”
Remember you have freedom of choice but not freedom of consequences, so make your choices carefully.
All the quotes are of Mr. Shiv Khera. I take no credit for them.Recommend
@Hassan Manzar – totally agree with your points.
Excellent article – no matter how well intentioned the two guys were they were displaying racist reasoning and used abusive language for a nation. The point about how black people were subjected to the same treatment is not tackled by any of fassi and george’s defenders. No matter what the ills in our society NO ONE has the righ to demean our nation or country. Criticism is NOT the same as abuse and racial stereotyping.Recommend
@Neelesh,
“I disagree with you and am tired of India Shining tyoes like you.”
–> Assumption is such a bi*. You are accusing me of something I’ve not talked about at all. I dont know which line of my comment suggests that I am ignoring the poverty in India or its other negatives.
I simply said our basic principles of which our constitution is a symbol does not discriminate against ANYONE. Please correct me if I am wrong. Our constitution is among the best in the world.Recommend
To say the least, Sialkot incident has been condemned by every individual and justice would surely emerge as victorious in this particular case. But a more potent question that requires us to pause and ponder is whether other incidents of similar or less guresome nature “were” or “are” or “will be” given the same importance by media, government and people? In the present case, the only difference that I find between Pakistani Society and a Western one is that if the similar lynching were being carried out in public in any country of the West no one would have interfered or stayed there. The public standing aside was not aware of the real situation. I personally fix the entire responsibility on the Police which not only acted as a silent spectator but also gave a misleading impression to the public standign there that whatever was going on was under their supervision.Western media has vested interests as it links every such incident with the war on terror, that is awful!Recommend
I do not know what mr. fulton has wrote. Neither i care. However what mr. zaka has wrote was an eye opener to the facts that we already know yet we do not pay any heed to.
Neither i care about the “burger” mentality of the people that blame those barbaric beasts and gave them the name Pakistanis.
The matter of fact is none of us has any courage and intentions to go and bring those people to justice. Even i was part of those protests but deep down i know nothing is going to happen. No matter how much we scream for justice we know that these people will end up being free.
You may be right but even then do you think mr. zaka will stop writing such articles or mr. fulton will stop blaming the Pakis for everything. The answer is no.
The people who play this blame game are always having someone to watch their back. Individually no one will even want to listen them. Its not just Pakistan, the whole world has the same story going on. We may be civilized, may have built skyscrapers but we will always be divided into hunters and prey.Recommend
interesting read “IN DEFENSE OF THE SIALKOT MOB”
http://amaurosis-fugax.blogspot.com/2010/08/in-defense-of-sialkot-mob.htmlRecommend
@anoop
please don’t group India with “West”. West is something that one should look upto. India on the other hand with a staggering poverty rate of 43% is known as slum capital of the world, where people go on killing sprees against minorities. They are two different worlds. India can at best be compared with sub-saharan africa.
And you can read about the tamil insurgency or the baloch liberation army to get information about which country is funding what. The CIA is famous for funding rogue organizations like the mujahidin in the 80s. I think every country does that, so stop being so delusional.Recommend
Thank you for your this reply to the much hurting article by george. we must resist and marginalize these new generation of writers which in order to gain cheap popularity can write stupid things and most of our – too much impressed from the western criticism – friends who can not bother to think themselves immediately start appreciating these material. we need people like mahreen khan who should address those writers and educate our people who are getting fond of these low class writers.Recommend
The statement in the last para “..When the rule of law is eroded, men, irrespective of race, turn into an unruly mob …” speaks a thousand words for most of the barbaric actions taken in the history whether using the law when having absolute power, or abrogating it with no fear of getting prosecuted. We can see the torture equipment in British museums used against their opponents or enemies. We see the conduct of British when they were absolute power in the subcontinent. Today also we see the same mindest of accusing, carrying out a short public trial (or no trial), and delivering punishment to our personal satisfaction whether Israel carrying out operations against human aid workers, Americans running Guantanamo Bay prison, so-called Taliban exploding and killing innocent people in the name of Islam, or Serb christians killing Bosnian muslims. In all the incidences there is a mindset of being above-the-law. It also shows that the mindset has nothing to do with lack of education or faith of the followers. In Pakistan the scary part is the promotion of the mindset in the name of fairness and justice. In the name of freedom of media, channels and newspapers are marketing bleeding bodies of every crime and terrorist act to add spice to their reporting. Every talk show is hungry to run a media trial and announce sentence. Barbarism is now being promoted without understanding the damage we are doing to our society. If we compile blogs on news items, or the participants on facebook where nobody gets prosecuted, we can see how violent we are in our expression, how hungry we are to pass our decision and kill our opponent in a way which can cool down our hatred…..these are all educated intolerant people. Intolerance becomes only affordable when there is no fear of law.Recommend
Mahreen, you have analysed correctly. Should Americans be called a nation of assassins, because they killed two of their Presidents (Kennedy and Abraham Lincoln) and attempts on Reagan etc…Americans killed a few millions of Red Indians….. And recently In America they had campus shoot outs, and have we forgotten…… Oklahoma Bombing etc etc etc . No we do not call Americans as a nation of murderers because they realise and condemn all that I have narrated. In the way to improve and be better, first thing is one has to realise and condemn the bad. That National remorse was the realisation and becoming a better people is round the corner……Recommend
applause…..brilliantly spoken…i had read those articles and wondered if that was what we have been reduced to—a self accusing nation. when u say sadistic u r bang on the target. im so pleased to have this gush of fresh soothing air…BRAVO.Recommend
“Using the horrific Sialkot killings, these “western, liberal” columnists have labelled all Pakistanis as “degenerates” and “barbaric”, hurling abusive and shameful generalisations to justify a verbal lynching of Pakistan, its culture and people.”
I am delighted that your experience from living and educating in the West like myself has widen your horizons to see beyond the perspectives of some very narrow minded Western Liberals that are spreading the paranoia of Pakistan’s Failure as a Nation and Humans. I live in London, a city known for its “Sophistication”, “Civilization” and “Humanitarian Acts”, yet only I as a citizen know the murky, dirty facts about the city of “BIG BEN TOWER”. Some may find this very amusing but even us Londoners don’t have immunity against violent acts of crime committed by the commoners, we also have youth killing and recording their victims and the Police not ever being where they need to be. At least in Pakistan a murderer is occasionally caught and sentenced to death. Here in the UK, the home of “Human Rights”, an eighteen month old known as Baby P, was repeatedly battered, boxed and abused until each bone in his body was broken, and eventually killed after weeks of abuse from his keepers. The killers sentenced for two and a half years and a little community service. Not far from where I work, a boy was stabbed by a youth mob, in broad daylight, for no apparent reason, the killer; a seventeen year old caught and transferred to juvenile jail. There have been fourteen incidents of youth killing and mobile video recording in the span on one week, right in the heart of the Capital of England. These killings do not include cannibalism, drug crimes, bank frauds, robberies, battering of elderlies and the vulnerable members of society for their belongings, car theft, family feuds, rape and kidnapping that seems to be in the local news each week. It is a jungle out here, but the tale of these internal crimes and warfare never reach the headlines of the National papers, let alone the international Media. The people of this country, don’t bat an eyelid over these stories, look at the reaction of Pakistani nations, it’s a blessing. We need more columnists that can write as you have so than the reader may establish, be that as it may, their sanity is still intact.Recommend
British Tabloids are no strangers to lawsuits of “Liables”, We almost always regard them a source of amuzement and entertainment while traveling to work by tubes in mornings or to check out the latest Celeb Gossip. They will always use the term “Alleged” to stear clear off the “Liable”. Now is a good time for them to do a Pakistan story, since its the hot topic and a fantastic source of increase in sales. You can call yourself a cockroach or a beetle I couldn’t careless but I know better than to let a paranoid and biased article make that decision for me, thank you.Recommend
Absolutely wnderful analysis. This is very very sharp thinking and eloquently expressed article. The best I have read on Express Tribune so far Kudos t the author!Recommend
outstanding!!Recommend
It is an interesting piece of article. Being righteously affronted by one piece of writing is a bit immature, especially if it comes from a legally educated person. Your arguments that men of any ethnicity, nationality and religion can behave barbarically is acceptable. But when you talk about Pakistan, why is it that you compare ethnic cleansing in Pakistan with what happened to people of Palestine and Israel or for that matter what occurred in Gujarat? You should confine yourself with what happens in Pakistan? why are you justifying what happens in your country by comparing it to what happens elsewhere? There is a lot that can be said about the atrocities that have been inflicted upon Hindus, Christians and members of other religion by Islamic Nations. Why is it that I never see a Muslim stand up and protest against killings of non-Muslims by Muslims anywhere? I honestly am at a loss to understand why Blasphemy laws, still continue to be applied in Pakistan and please do not say that these laws have any other purpose barring the persecution of Non-Muslims, including Ahmadis & condoning their lynching at the hands of the righteous Muslims. If you want the world to have empathy and sympathy for Muslims then equally Muslims need to exhibit the same vis-a-vis people of other religions. If you want to change your country and its citizens for the better then I would suggest that you have both heart and conscience to honestly analyse the plague that hounds the Pakistani society, the religious propaganda perpetuated by the state and clerics..You need to see the problem for what it is, Warts and all. You cannot selectively choose to suit your affronted nationalistic emotions.Recommend
This girl really PAWNED.Recommend
Excellent Mahreen. I didnt give much attention to the columns, full of distorted facts, of these sadists. But what was pinching for me is the response of readers to that columns. Alas! when we will come out of inferiority complex?Recommend
By the way Kudos to the Pakistanis who have the Strength of Character and Moral Fibre to be able to assess their own drawbacks. Had the youth of Pakistan undergone such an introspection from the very start, Pakistan would have truly been a great, prosperous and respected nation. It takes a lot to admit that one’s faults, it is always easier to remain in denial..Liberalism is far better than radicalism and bigotry..Recommend
how about a little less comparison of depraved behaviour, and just a bit more social introspection. Just b/c the jews, the hutus and tutsis did it doesn’t make it any more acceptable. We need to stop deflecting, and apologizing for the actions of sialkot and start fixing the underlying disfunctions of our society. to say that it was done to us before partition doesn’t make it justified or take the blame of us.for the very reason that it was done to us, we should never do it to each other.
I am sorry an exceptionally purile and simplistic take on things.Recommend
pls be easy on fulton, however you can roll zaka to all you hearts intent…Recommend
Most of the Posts as comments especially by those who are continuosly cursing and bashing Pakistan and behvior of our people in releavnce to Islam are as a matter of fact not doing so because they hate and condemn that Lynching act but basically they are doing so beacuse they are taking this whole event as an easy excuse and so convenient an opportunity to vent out their own personal hidden hatered and nauseating dispel against Pakistan and also against Islam. language and wordings of most of the posts portraying their displeasure not on the actual incident but they are lashing on merely three words Pakistan Pakistani and Muslim. They are trying to tell us As if this country Pakistan was not supposed to be made for living of Humans but for living of Angels and Messihaas. Those cynical and sick minds are completly ignoring the fact that PAKISTAN is a part of world community on the very same earth and does’nt exist in isloation somewhere in skys. Like any other country and people Pakistan and Pakistani is living equally in the same natural influence and process of Virtue & Vice.
My Friends, You dont measure countries and people merely by their Achievements and behavior But to a greater extent by their Potential. Potential is Something Possible but not yet as Actual. People blessed with Virtue and with Education Knowledge Skills and wisdom are there in society with the Possibility to make it Actual. People in Vice, Ignorants and ills in Society are like Weed and Weed you know is a useless plant that spoils the soil but still it’s green, flowery and colorfull. I think no matter how wild it is but Weed still is a natural plant, Its only that the Virtue of weed is not yet discovered. Realy good Gardeners always try to convert the soil of weeds into plants of Roses and Dasies. Same is the role Wise people in society. But Dilemma of our educated class is that they consider themselves as Elits of society rathet than as Care Takers. In self pride of their education, knowledge, awareness and wisdom they disconnect themselves from their origin. One of my elder used to tell me: In Pakistan every person having a Car does’nt know how to drive, Every person who has the money does’nt know how to spend and that everyone who so calling himself Educated does’nt know how to apply that education. Simply Capitalising your ownselves on that Education is not the real application of Education and Wisdom that you actually owe to your own society your country and your people.Recommend
Mehreen, your rebuttal holds no water because you seem to have virtually missed the premise of Fasi. You better focus on his satire and figurative meanings. I endorse Fasi’s articles in its entirety that we as a nation has become a repugnant creature. Your article reflects jingoistic holier-than-thou attitude that alone makes a good recipe of self-destruction. Why do you flatly deny the facts that we as a nation have corrupted ourselves from head to toe.Recommend
Brilliant column Mahreen.
You highlighted the vilification of Pakistan, Pakistanis and all things Pakistanis by a section of Pakistanis very aptly named the ‘liberal lynch mob’, and their Western counterparts, as part of a ‘lunch mob mentality of praying on the weak’, perfectly.
That is precisely what it is – most Western commentators find all sorts of nauseating excuses for the brutal actions of States like Israel, US and India, while denigrating weaker States in the developing world with whom their nations do not have great long term economic or strategic interests.Recommend
Well written Mehreen Khan! Those two articles that you have talked about got me real angry…and what was more disturbing was people applauding the two for their great work!Recommend
Above article reflects a benchmark in quality writing. It is the evidence that when you really speak the voice of your people, and good people, then they generously admire you. I’m one among the army of your admirers :)Recommend
Your retort has indeed infused fresh air in the gloomy atmosphere.Recommend
Bravo.Recommend
Miss Mahreen Khan goes into denial and diversion mode in order to cover up corruption, lies, fraud, murder and stupidity that is the norm in Pakistan. That is the attitude that had brought Pakistan to ruin, simply ignoring everything bad and going off into self-congratulation.Recommend
Mehreen, having Pakistanis bury their heads in the sand is not going to solve any problems – its time Pakistanis took charge of their own futures by taking responsibility for themselves and their own actionsRecommend
Barrister! please go and get some pro bono for the needy. You dont have the right to waste the seat of law college/university like this. Leave this Ac, coffee, PC and light music to the professional journalists to enjoy while they write a column or blog trying to bring a revolution. This is kalim khan reporting, swimming in the middle of Indus with five families on shoulder trying hard to save them.Recommend
MS KHAN
God bless you. You have made absolutly a right and positive use of your personal education wisdom and enlightened mind. These are the times that try human souls. God adjudges the value of human souls in such moments of crises no matter how prolonged they are. Sunshine patriots fueled with bitterness will abondon to shrink from the services of their country but those who keep themselves composed enough to stand afirm on their soil will deserve the love and thanx of their people. Ms. Khan, Cherish we must to our people not for their ability to comfort and amuse us but for our own ability to comfort and amuse them. Those big mouths with poisnous tongues must abondon this country for the country’s sake. So that all those left bhind can say to our soil..”Our Grief Our Smile always begin in your face, my homeland”Recommend
Very nice article. I appreciate your balanced views.Recommend
Great effort by the author, very patriotic but denying the truth. I would not agree totally with Fasi or Mr. Fulton but I do understand why they have been so critical about the Sialkot mob murder. Most of us, before this accident, defended the Pakistan nation as being a victim to generalization which was based on the few occasions and few groups of people, but the Sialkot incident proved that the generalization about Pakistani nation being barbaric, brutal and most of all ignorant and illiterate people is correct. We saw common people beating those kids to death with our law standing their like a total stooge, if that’s not enough I don’t think we can ever be a civilized nation. It is about time we realize that we need major changes in our society and that can’t be done without articles from such authors, not that I praise the articles or the author but we do need them now. I am sure I can say this to be true that 99% of Pakistani would not want their children to grow up in this country and 90% of those who have lived here, spent their childhood in Pakistan too would want to get out of this country.
The only criticism I have on this article is that the Author is trying to tell us that everything is alright and will become better but I and many of Pakistani don’t think this will happen. The situation is getting worse day by day. First it used to be foreign policies of western countries hurting this nation, than came the Taliban (now a synonym of terrorist), still we had hope as these were not from among us, but after watching how those 2 brothers were killed by we as a nation I don’t think something better can happen to this nation in the future, unless we take this matter so seriously and look at it the way Fasi and Fulton have. Once again I am not saying that we have to agree with what they wrote, leave alone praising them but we have to agree that we as a nation needed that slap.Recommend
Great response to Mr. George FultonRecommend
Very well said. Bravo !Recommend
Well said. But note there are still idiots out there clinging to the darkness (SG e.g). I wonder if these folks even understand what you have written in your article.
I am very proud of you. So – thank you!Recommend
Wellwritten article. yes, they were gross over generalizations but havent we always given everybody the perfect opportunity to verbally flay us on the international stage. Hell, this time we gave ourselves an opportunity to spit on ourselves. Foreign agendas are there, they will always be; but every country has its own share of crap ! Guess what , so do we ! We need to pick ourselves up (stop begging from everyone), dust our pants (remove vermin that we call our leaders) and start walking !!
FarooqiRecommend
Instead of producing examples of other atrocities committed in this world, to make Pakistanis feel just like any other nation (!!!), we really should acknowledge our own flawed morality at this time. Insight is the first step towards correction…Recommend
Finally a sensible and articulate response to a very “arrogant” and confused article by Mr. Zaka! Great job Mehreen!
While I believe everybody has a right to their opinion but I am beginning to get tired of this shaming/blaming game where the “people” of Pakistan are bashed constantly! Where we are constantly told to be ashamed of ourselves…and sometimes by people who have yet to prove themselves to even themselves!
I do understand the gentleman’s response and frustration AND yes as citizens we are responsible for what’s happening around us BUT please let’s not tie the horses and mules together all the time!
Even if for the sake of argument we agree with what he says then my question is HOW DO WE PUT IT RIGHT?? WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?? Its easy to went your anger and point out the problems and issues and tell people what they should think of themselves BUT I want to know WHAT IS THE SOLUTION??
Maray hue ko aur kitna marna hai! And btw this constant negativity and pessimism doesn’t help people to get motivated, or to change, or get up and do something! In times of disaster (earthquake & floods) when the ordinary people rise to the occasion then why would they not in other times too??
they would only if we could bring them together as a nation! or at least group them together! Give them a vision, encourage them and support them, rally around them. and this happens with only good leadership! The state has to play its role too! It takes 2 to tango and in our case it has always taken 3! the “democratic govt” needs to play a more vital role than it has over the years! The state has not been responsible for its citizens in Pakistan!
what do you expect from a already suppressed and oppressed lot whose basic survival is at stake all the time! I am not saying or advocating the fact that we should be absolved of any responsibility as citizens or humans but please stop telling me constantly that i should be ashamed of being a Pakistani because i am NOT! And i am certainly not a cockroach!
“rotten to every brain stem” he says, well then the question is who is responsible for ensuring education in Pakistan??
The problem I see with his article is that he has also confused the role of the state, citizens, politicians, army, judiciary etc AND he is certainly oblivious to the role of the civil society in Paksitan, maybe its not been loud enough but it has certainly had an impact in changing laws, policies and status of its citizens esp women!
And if the only solution he has offered is “Truth is, there is only one way to get change, and it’s not hanging the people who killed these boys. It is raising your voice to contradict people who advocate death for others….Sounds easy? Well just try it.”
If change came ONLY by raising voices…then millions of people in UK & USA demonstrated against the Iraq invasion….and the rest is history!Recommend
Basically, here’s what your argument against self-loathing is: “they did it, too!”
First time I decided to venture on Pakistani website, and this retarded rant is what I got.Recommend
oh thank god some one just spoke for us too…excellent article…agreed 1000000%….these guyz fulton and fasi..after reading thier articles i was wondering that these guyz were already full of anger againt pakistan..they just needed and reason and they just blaubed it out..comparing history and people’s attitude with MAULA jutt thats hilarious i guess.and its a disgrace to our fore fathers too who were the victims of the blood shed.and look at their fore seeing and kind of their hope too..that we were and will be barbrist..damn thats too harsh and cowrd to say.and i guess that fusi and george both forget while writting these articles that they are pakistani too.and they equally share the reposibility of changing this nation by prcatically joining government institutes rather than just by writing articles to deteriorate our minds.Recommend
Mehreen and all the fans of this article! Stay in fools paradise until an angry mob comes and kills you or you become a part of such a mob.Recommend
What a hodge podge of patriotic and non-sensical response to those that want us to take responsibility of our own worst deeds as a nation.. Unless we understand what is wrong with us, take full responsibility and agree that we are the number 1 nation globally for having worst reputation and being in the news for all the worst reasons, nothing will change.
You can put as much gloss over our communal failure to protect our citizens from ourselves, to spread hate and violence in the name of religion, to kill and maim our own in the name of honour and to export terrorism globally, but the truth is that the world sees us for who we truly are..
We are Mehreen Aziz Khan of Harvard a shameless group of Punjabis, Sindhis, Balochis, Mohajirs, Pathans, Shias, Sunnis, Barelvis, deobandis, and not Pakistanis…
We are our own worst enemies and dont need Harvard educated people to tell us any different. Let us feel the scum that we are only so that we realise that we need to wake up and become a different people.
Please , stop pretending that we are not WRONG and for Gods sake accept the responsibility for being a global migraine of a nation. Only then we will plot a course that gets us away from the filth that we currently find ourselves in..Recommend
Good Response Mehreen!Recommend
I couldn’t disagree with you more though you might be eloquent in saying what you have said. We need to stop congratulating ourselves for actually reacting to Sialkot incident, the truth is Pakistanis are intolerant and a cruel nation. There are no human rights, the only people who have the rights are the people with power and money and this gives them the right over anything that any other Pakistani have. We as a nation never faced the level of barbarism and cruelty in our society head on rather than feel sorry for ourselves and its exactly your kind of delusional patriotism that prevents people from this self evaluation. Partition was a voilent period and it should be accepted as such rather than us making excuses for it, regardless of the catalyst for such reactions. Likewise the atrocities and the constant discrimation aimed at Ahmadis, Christains etc should be acknowledged for what they are and these people should recieve justice. or else if you breed intolerance in a society then what goes around comes around….Recommend
Expecting a muted response from a sane citizen of Pakistan over Sialkot tragedy is extremely insensitive. I just wonder what exactly this columnist response was on this tragedy. Today the victims have been rendered innocent from a judicial inquiry. ‘The bad among us are as bad as any other nation in the world’, does that justify being that inhuman and barbaric? ‘We are war-torn, flood-ravaged and poor’, does that justify killing people on the streets under false assumption?
We as a nation are answerable for even a single drop of blood that’s shed in injustice. We can’t just hide and delude ourselves and keep the inhumane among us nourishing on our insensitivity. Let’s just ask to ourselves, aren’t all of us playing our silent part in the erosion of our social fabric? Yes, each one of us and above all columnists like this one who are tapping into the ‘reverse sympathy wave’ and encouraging indifference.Recommend
great … best article, great rebuttalRecommend
As of I am commenting, I can see on TV News for another such act; three blasts near “Gammy Shah”, Bhaati Gate, Lahore. It was another Sectarian attack on Motherland, killing many and injuring many to procure Justice turned into revenge later. Lashkar-e-Jhangvi claimed responsibility of this irresponsible and rasict act. Its very hard to be a Shepherd, and be an optimistic, when injustice speaks louder than reason and sensibility.
Those who are living in Pakistan, and watching the blood color- it has been really hard for them to act sane. Most definitely, expression is inspired by the environment, I myself feel I’m mentally ill of the scenario, counting people dying everyday, some become a headline and some even worth not being.
Fasi & George, have an expression, and thus they write their stance, Punjab has a blood history but legitimizing it is not a sane act.Recommend
A very good rebuttal to all the negative publications against Pakistan….Pakistan Zindabad!Recommend
Yes, lets keep telling ourselves we are not that bad. Do you not see where this has got us?Recommend
A VERY good column. God bless the writer.Recommend
well written and introspective piece.Recommend
Excellent,very possitive,Well done.Recommend
Excellent,Very Possitive,Well done,And Keep it up.Recommend
what is this so called positivity going to achieve for you? we have been chanting Pakistan zindabaad and feeling good about ourselves for decades and look where it has got us. Despite your Harvard education I am afraid you cannot appreciate the subtleties of allegorical prose may be we should lament the state Harvard has come to.Recommend
People need to calm down.Because if there is a singular theme in what happened in Sialkot to what is happening on this forum, its that we are a “JAZBAATI(emotional)” people.
What was witnessed in Sialkot was mob-frenzy, that albeit had various reasons behind it, like individuals frustrated with poverty, feeling depraved seeing images of the good life on their television sets, that they would never attain. But mostly it was mob-justice, a phenomena that reigns in every society where law-and-order is basal and corruptible, and people would rather not register FIRs because they feel that the law-enforcers are bigger crooks than the criminals who robbed them. This should be a wake up call to better our law enforcement.
There are plenty of degenerates and demented people in Pakistan, but sweeping generalizations that declare all as “cockroaches” are simply deplorable. The fact that an incident like this is evoking such a vociferous response shows that we are not dead inside.
Have some self-esteem guys, our nation has a long way to go.Recommend
Thank you Mahreen for writing such an excellent article. Hats off to you!!Recommend
Accurate rebuttal to pseudo intellectuals
Hats off to MahreenRecommend
Those articles you have been criticizing are simply explaining the current situation and circumstances the way those journalists have seen it. I personally admire the way they were written as they were genuine and without an effort to pleasing anyone. On the other hand your article doesn’t contain any substance. Simply reading others articles and comment on them just for the sake of writing is not exactly a good journalism….and please don’t compare us with Rwanda or any other country that lives below par and try to feel good about yourself as nation.
Seriously, 2 young boys were brutally killed by an angry mob and everybody watched it…you really don’t feel like a human cockroach???? Seriously shame on us….but any how my comments are not here to defend others article….they don’t really need defense as they were written on merit.Recommend
Please don’t criticize the articles for their intent and message. I agree that equating the partition with bloodlust and drawing a connection from that to the present state of Pakistan is not sane, but as for the rest of the message, it is absolutely true. We are a degenerate, comatose nation that has stopped reacting except by saying “hawww” and “toba astaghfaar” and cringing. What the hell are we going to accomplish by that? And Sohni Dharti and Pak Sar Zameen are not going to cut it. We are not in Sohail Rana’s program from the sixties, holding hands and singing patriotic songs is not going to fix our problems. We are going to fix these problems if we have the ghairat to rise up and say we are not going to stand for any nonsense that goes against the innate values/morals of this society…if there are any! We are a nation of corrupt people who refuse to pay the token money of Rs.10 at entry points and get into arguments with the guards. We bribe shamelessly. We have created the monsters that stood in Buttar that day and cracked open two innocent boys’ skulls. And we are standing, silently, letting the extremely competent police force and judiciary decide how this drama will unfold. What will it take for you to agree that we are acting like some kind of insect, even if not cockroaches. Isn’t it time you should be writing for the CJ to dole out an exemplary sentence, and rallying the public to write to their MNAs/MPAs, call up all news channels non-stop, and do anything else that makes our voices heard LOUD AND CLEAR all across our government that this incident cannot be washed away like its predecessors?Recommend
You’re so very right in saying that those articles were nauseating. Thank you Mahreen for this piece and the article was so aptly named.Recommend
Dear Mehreen,
To be honest with you and my country fellows, Pakistani expatriates living in UAE have gone into severe depression after viewing this worst incident on youtube and TV channels. Definitely we must defend our country, but please just think that the world knows us as one of the most corrupt nations. Our government is fighting with the judiciary. There are many reaons that we can be blamed for brutality.
Our flood and earthquake affected people are looted by their Muslim brothers. Zakaat is taken by the rich people and the poor remain seprived. Shopkeepers and retailers have increased the prices of medicines and household items many times in the flood affected areas. We are not one nation but we are Sindhis, Punjabis, Muhajirs, Balochies and Pathans… We are sunnis, shiaas, wahaabis etc. etc. We (as a mob) can kill anyone who is innocent (without carrying out any investigation or inquiry). In Gujrat, India there was a big massacre, yet it was between Muslims and Hindus. Hindus did not kill Hindus at least. World dislikes us as we kill our daughters for our honour. We kill them just because they want to marry someone of their choice. I don’t think so our great Quaid Jinnah had struggled for Pakistan’s foundation for these things. Do you think?Recommend
The image of Pakistanis need to be improved globally so that we can encourage the aid coming in. A secular society needs to be promoted to get our dignity back.Recommend
Well done Mehreen.Presenting both sides of the gloomy international picture as opposed to the harangue of the apologists for personal acclaim cloaked in the garb of righteous indignation ,is truly praiseworthy.The Salman Rushdies of the world will always thrive by cunning connivance and these knaves by ” distorting the truth to make a trap for fools ” seek paltry material benefits by selling their consciences.Ignore them but respond to their vitriol.Recommend
Mehreen is right both these guys have gone overboard. Comparisons don’t play out as people are the same the world over no matter the color of their skins.Circumstances are what provoke people to be restrained or compel them to do horrible things. If for one moment the rich countries found that they were poor and the people jobless with little or no hope. I can with certainty say that all their tolerance, patience etc. would fly out the window and the law of the jungle would prevail.Recommend
Apart from the well made arguments in the article, it surly helped me in improving mine vocabulary :DRecommend
Cant justify something wrong just because someone else’s history is also littered with it. But I think most people are missing out the point Mahreen is trying to make. There are good and bad people all around us and there is propensity for both good and evil within the same person. The first step towards realism is to come out of denial and accept the wrong that was done but the loads of cynicism, negativity and despair being spewed these days is not the answer. Let’s work out plausible solutions rather than rant.Recommend
Saira (page 2) : well said! Britain is OUTRIGHTLY RACIST AND BIGOTED, in spite of all its hype about ‘racial harmony’, ‘multi-culture’ and what not! It is all but a ploy to mask their inherent mean racist depravity that hardly dies out. We know the barbaric racial assault, abuse and even murder of South Asians there committed by depraved racist thugs and teenagers. And, they get away with nothing in their much-hyped judicial system! The police, as everyone knows, is very much racist and they turn a blind eye towards these kind of inhuman outrages. Nevertheless, they allow us in ONLY BECAUSE THEY NEED US FOR THEIR SLAVE LABOUR, WHICH NONE OF THEIR ‘PEOPLE’ WOULD DO. Otherwise, they have no love or liking for us. So, keep writing about this and let people know. Ayathollah Ali Khameini was indeed right when he said ‘Britain is evil’. Hard truth tastes bitter.Recommend