SHAWAL: The Tehreek-e-Taliban (TTP) have threatened Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan against a planned march to Waziristan to protest US drone attacks.
Talking to the Associated Press on Monday in South Waziristan, a Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan spokesperson Ahsanullah Ahsan had said they would attack Khan because he calls himself a ‘liberal’, a term usually reserved by them for a person lacking religious belief.
The threat comes as a surprise since not only Khan and TTP share their opposition to drone strikes in the region, but the former, one would argue, has demonstrated his religiosity publicly, praying in front of the crowd at his rallies.
Khan too has maintained that he is a liberal and a practicing Muslim. Some of his critics have nicknamed him "Taliban Khan" because of his views and ties with conservative religious parties, who could help him attract right-wing voters in the upcoming general elections.
Ahsan reiterated in the interview that the TTP did not want Khan’s help in opposing drone attacks.
"We will not accept help or sympathy from any infidel,” said Ahsan, referring to Khan. "We can fight on our own with the help of God,” he said, as, ironically, drones flew overhead.
Earlier in July, Khan had announced that he was planning to lead thousands of people in a march to Waziristan in September to protest against the strikes.
A PTI spokesperson could not be immediately reached for comment.
Ahsan added that the Taliban considered anyone who participates in elections, even Islamist parties, as infidels and will target them.
"The election process is part of a secular system,” said Ahsan. ”We want an Islamic system and will create hurdles to secularism.”
According to the report, the journalist was taken to where Ahsan was hiding, from a compound in the Shawal area that housed several dozen Taliban fighters armed to the teeth with AK-47s, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and anti-aircraft guns.
Artillery fired by the Pakistani army regularly pounded the ground near the compound.
The military had launched a major operation against the Pakistani Taliban in South Waziristan in 2009 and claimed to have largely cleared the area. However militants regularly launch attacks in the region.
Providing further details, the AP report said that Ahsan had arrived for the interview in a pick-up truck with two other Taliban commanders. He was wearing a white shalwar kameez and a woolen Chitrali cap. He spoke with an assault rifle laid across his lap.
Ahsan and the other commanders fired into the air in celebration at the end of the interview.
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@pakistani: respect mr IK but dont agree with him, why should we stop a war against throat cutters and evil doers, sorry we need to destroy them, this is the only thing I dont agree with IK, the rest I wish him well, I hope he is the PM and I support him.
But I dont support peace with Taliban, you dont make peace with the devil.
LONG LIVE PAKISTAN........Carry On Imran.....
Is it "march" or a "match" !!!
@Secular: Please supply some credible references to support your comments!
Gret leaders think before they lip, He iz a great leader we all believe, he will b safe, INSHAALLAH
TTP was actually designed by CIA in order to serve as double agent in Alkaida of Afghanistan after the approval of Gen. Musheraf , but asusual filthy untruth-worthy American Diplomats just back stabbedPakistan by using against it.Later it came to know that it was actually designed to organize chaos in Pakistan & then army was forced to take offensive against them , hence it was the start of sectarian violence in Pakistan.
@Adnan: Opposed to right-wingers who condone local Pakistani violence against Muslims, non-Muslim minorities, and in neighbouring countries? No one is droning IK. The drones target militants. I'm against it only because of collateral civilian deaths. To avoid it Pak army should move in against terrorists -- but Pak army does not and seem to have endorsed the drones themselves. Burma, Kashmir? Really? You fail to counter, copy&paste and go into hypocritical deflection, nonsensical hyperbole proving the unbalance.
Bottom line. If u really care for Muslims in Afghanistan then I suggest not to hypocritically support psychopathic terrorists that bomb and kill innocent Afghans at schools, markets, playgrounds, funerals, banks, etc, just to satisfy thirst for revenge and power.
Are we surprised by these claims and threats made by the TPP? We should not be… It shows the real face of the terrorists who thrive in intimidating others. We have seen over and over how people who were their supporters and advisors killed brutally and their videos released to the media. Did you forget Col. Imam? Pakistanis should realize that the TTP is the real enemy of peace in the region. When will we bring ourselves to cease this blame game and focus on tackling this menace once and for all? That is the only way Pakistanis can once again live in peace, and prosperity can return to the region.
Capt. Joseph Kreidel DET-United States Central Command www.centcom.mil/ur
Declare Pakistan a secular state in one stroke and see the effect . Give full freedom to drone attack . Arrest the leaders and supporters of terrorists by the proffessional army of the country in one night and shoot some of them . Form a collision govt. of liverals of all parties and NGOs . just to watch the army action. Perhaps these are the only solution to ensure peace in Pakistan ,otherwise it is going to be a Syria soon.
@UTurn:
The TTP just told your nation publicly that your leading Pakistani public figure has no right to step onto wide swaths of perceived Pakistani territory. If that isn't reason yet for you to "rise up" for Pakistan. I don't think them killing him will be either.
@A:
Cry your heart out Shakespeare. If only Pakistan existed during his time, Shakespeare would have created so many more heart wrenching dramatic ironies. Just reading these comments, I find myself being a constant playwright. What was the second comment? "The TTP are the enemies of peace for Pakistan, whom are controlled by foreign elements." That has been the official position on militant Taliban factions verbatim in Afghanistan for the last decade. What it is, is a mess. I'll leave it at that. Although a part of me wants me to write a book right here. Oh Pakistan, in a state of endless paranoia, Your worst enemy is yourself. The TTP is only a product of that.
I'm sure the terrorist Ahsanullah said they will kill Imran Khan, but then later changed the statement seeing it will remove virtually all opposition to drones if they kill Imran Khan.
@numbersnumbers:
There is a clear difference between a claim and information.
Ok Rehman Malik would be a liar but what about Pakistan Army and Afghan Govt?
Or...
Otherwise One must not believe in your existence either.
Talibans may have a great anger 2 hear this, but sorry 2 say: 'u people(TTP) are infidels".
I think that these TTP have no sense and no understanding of the basics of islam & yet still try 2 convince themselves as the best muslims!
A strange statement by TTP. I wonder who is controlling the strings of TTP??!!!
Long Live PTI and IK our next PM Inshallah GO ON WITH YOUR MARCH ALLAH WILL PROTECT YOU!!! You are the HOPE of the TRUE SONS OF PAKISTAN!!!
ttp don't want to stop drones because they are agents of indian controlled afghanistan. they want to make the people of fata angry with pakistan. if they were friend of islam they would certainly welcome pti in the fight for the sovereignty of pakistan.
The irony of the Taliban apologist becoming a potential Taliban victim. PTI refused to stand by the thousands of Pakistanis who lost their lives at hands of these murderers...a time may come when it'll have no one left to protect its own leaders.
How dare TTP challenge the constitution of Pakistan and declare themselves and extra-constitutional authority. But these are deadly savages. They cannot be taken lightly. The must be crushed there is no other solution. All such terrorist mindset must be crushed. It has nothing what so ever to do with Islam.
It only shows how weak our governance is. What are the govt. employees taking salaries for? If they cannot give protection they must resign now! How dare any body stop from Imran or any political party from having any activity in Waziristan? The government should show strong resolve and use all the force in its command to eliminate any threat to the writ of the state.
How does TTP get armed. Somebody is paying and providing material and logistic help. Cut it. Ensure that they do not get a drop of petrol and diesel. Apply a total embargo on arms and ammunition. Where is our intelligence? Where are all the agencies for which we pay so dearly. They should all get into the act and ensure total peace and harmony. If the government of Pakistan wants it, it can do it.
Now this is the time for Imran and PTI to prove they actually believe in their mission of stopping drones strikes and its not a political point scoring tactic. If they still go ahead with it i will vote for them in this election else they should forget pple support
Imran Khan was very optimistic that he will be able to talk the Taliban into giving up arms and joining the mainstream. How can someone so experienced suffer from such pipe dreams ? Either he is very gullible or wants to exploit vote bank Politics to attain power.
Imran should know how to deal with this googly!
Pity drone attacks have not got this guy Ahsanullah Ahsan yet
Just got email from TTPspokesperson Ehsanullah Ehsan . He said he hadn't stated in interview that we are going to kill #imrankhan. AP misquoted him, He told this journalist that TTP Shura will decide a week before Imran sure arrival and will announce the reaction. he alsos aid that It is sure and clear that we don't have any sympathy with Imran Khan neither we need his sympathy, as he himself claim to be liberal and we seek liberals as Infidels
@UTurn: Who want peace in Pakistan least of TTP.
The main reason for issue of threat by TTP to Imran is due to clash of their common goal ie to rule Pakistan one day. TTP has made its intentions quite clear to enforce Sharia in the whole country and even JuD and Afghan Taleban backs their ideology to achieve this objective. Therefore, PTI became a major obstacle against their(militant organisations) grand design since IK is receiving massive support from the masses and also making statements that militancy would simply disappear from Pakistan once foreign forces leave this region which was much to disliking of TTP and others forcing them issue this warning. IK should take this warning most seriously and his life is in danger in other parts of the country as well. After all two Taleban Khans cannot rule one Pakistan.
@Mirror:
This is where right-wing Pakistanis have a delusional, simplistic and skewed view of everything indulging in false equivalences.
The TTP (one, out of so many different type of Taliban groups) have threatened to murder IK and the entire democratic process in Pak.
Liberals have made no such violent threat and oppose IK by civil means through the democratic process. Huge difference.
Despite the threat on IK, it does not diminish the fact that he is still quite a Taliban apologist, has condoned many of these terrorists' attacks as 'legitimate grievances', and appeals to many extremist groups, other than the TTP, of which there are many in Pak, like in the DPC.
@ayesha azeem: Only they claim to be muslims - in their own warped minds they think they are.
There obviously is a Thought. Disorder with these guys. According to their own conviction They shouldn't even need guns to fight. Afterall that too is an invention of an infidel. We must have a big Mental Hospital for all these guys.
The so called Taliban are just Plain DUMB. or simply don't want peace to prevail in Pakistan and they use Islam to misguide the people. Tarnishing both Islam and Pakistan. This only imply they work for anti Pakistan forces. Creating the feel as they are puppet to a master that is Anti-Pakistan.
welldone IK you always have a point to back track.
@Adnan: 1) You were making the claims, so tell us how you know! 2) WOW, claims by REHMAN MALIK!!! Now there is a solid source of "facts"! I believe he is now singing his favorite tune (something along the lines of the "hidden hand")!
And what Zardari and NS will do except for hiding in their palaces.
@the Skunk: Will you go with IK ?
@Faheem: "Poor Imran Khan: Liberals call him ‘Taliban Khan’ whereas the TTP calls him ‘Liberal Khan’". IK's own double standards and stupid polices.
Imran Khan says ... doesn't matter, after all they are our brothers!
@UTurn: Who want peace in Pakistan least of TTP.
Go drones!
TTP will perish if they dare to harm IK. We, the nation will take up arms then and not only perish them but the foriegn hands behind this pathetic organization.
@shakir: no body should have the guts after the threat by the TTP..... if you can dare just visit Swat or Dir i will see your courage man......
Imran, taliban bhai bhai.
Liberal is a dirty word now? What about conservative then? Me? I am a moderate.
welcome to reality khan sahab :) there wont be any peace until religion is staying in Pakistan :)
I hate taliban
Nobody can control the Mullah - ZAB and Zia tried but could not - they turned Pakistan into Mullahstan. The good looking mullah needs to realise he cannot control the mullah either - they are out to destroy pakistan
Taliban: Imran Khan is a liberal so we will attack him. Liberals: Imran Khan follows Taliban ideology so he should be opposed.
I guess both Taliban and Liberals perfectly mirror each other.
Everybody has a right to do what he wants to do....Long Live Democracy ...LOL
@Adnan: "Being a Afghani as you claim you might have a bit education about the difference between TTP and Talibans fighting your enemy AMericans on your soil on your behalf?"
You should know that more than 50% of Afghans are not Pashtuns and they HATED the Afghan Taiban rule i 1996-2001. A lot of Pashtuns too hated Afghan Taliban rule - in particular the Pashtun women. SO a majority of Afghans DO NOT consider USA their enemy.
Oh and Afghan Taliban are not fighting for the sake of ordinary Afghans' freedom - who anyway have more freedom now than they did under the Talban rule. They are fighting just to become rulers again and re-implement their cruel regime.
"Bad Taliban is threatening the Good taliban" - Pakistan
"Good Taliban is threatening the bad Taliban" - Afghanistan
Yes, they know that IK is the real threat to them. He will win the hearts and minds of common tribal people by protesting against drone attack. Once this happens they no longer will remain disguised and the common tribal men will hunt them down and eliminate them. That is why they want IK to be out of their controlled territory so this war continues and they can keep getting money from their bosses around the world ( enemy states of Pakistan). This is a clever move by IK, its about time Pakistan should get rid of these outlaws who are killing people in the name of Allah and know nothing about Islam. They have destroyed Pakistan's good name and in fact they are the real cancer affecting Pakistan.
It never ceases to amaze me that this "Islamic Republic" that Imran Khan wants to lead with "Islamic Values" has a segment of duped ppopulation who deify the Kaptaan.
Khan Sahib, I bet you will put an end to the Taliban in 9 days upon taking power and turn Pakistan into an economic superpower within 90 days. The green passport will be the envy of the world too, as you promised a few months back.
Even the other corrupt politicians have not made outrageous promises like these. Sigh!
Imran Khan condones suicide bombing that is why he shys away from condemning any suicide bombing. He is colluding with extreme right wing alliances like DPC and he wants to tell he will be harmed by TTP... I think he is right in saying because a nation who sets aside logic to accept a car can run on water can accept any non-sensical thing thrown to it. The level of intelligence we now have we all deserve Zardaris, Sharifs, Imran Khan and likes of them. With CJP enhancing all the country risk and IK fully backing it I am just waiting for the slow crumbling and disintegration of institutions. Keep going bro you have all the right to fool the already fooled
@Adnan:
With that twisted logic you can say TTP is fighting corrupt Pak establishment on your behalf.
There is no 'good Taliban'. Only some that can be 'reasoned with'. On the whole most Afghans see the Taliban as their murderers, not brothers, like right-wing Pakistanis fantasize, and seek stability instead of warring with the US.
Seems more like the Afghan Taliban are fighting America on your Pakistani wishes, which also includes killing innocent Afghans at markets, checkpoints, government buildings, banks, hotels, funerals, playgrounds, schools, etc.
Supporting such terrorists is simply criminal and extremist.
@Tamoor: @The other echoed posters: I've been trying to stay away from those comments but it's just getting old and I hate it when people falsely think they've suddenly gotten some kind of high ground and then start acting pompous. The reason he has been called Taliban Khan is his view of them. Not their view of him. In fact, this threat just goes to prove Imran Khan was as foolish as everyone said he was when he was in the process of earning that nickname. The very same people who gave it to him simultaneously acknowledged they wouldn't return the sentiments. It's a sign of being gullible and naive. Both are traits any leader worth his position would stay away from as much as possible. Your comment just makes you look silly. Though his supporters are great at twisting things unimaginable ways trying to soften Imran Khan's falls every time he steps over the ledge... Which happens to be almost every time he opens his mouth.
@M Shahbaz Akhtar: You should get back to thinking. Because the first two thoughts are utterly laughable. Third time's the charm.
So, the Americans threaten a real democratic movement in Pakistan ... through TTP - their proxies and lackeys ...
Now this topi drama of Imran Khan and TTP beats that of Faisal Raza Abidi and PPP
These people are hired guns, no different to the mercenaries used in Syria and Libya
@Rehan: And you do?
IK infamously claimed the Taliban's attacks were 'legitimate grievances', despite their attacks on minorities, women and children, markets, funerals, etc. This is where he got his reputation as a Taliban criminal apologist.
Wonder if their wish to kill him and the Pak system is 'legitimate grievance' too.
This is not America's war. This is OUR war.
The label, Taliban Khan, will definitely apply on him if he is indeed received by recently turned 'good Taliban' militant Hafiz Gul Bahadur.
Maybe what army is doing right now IS the solution.
i think UN peace force should be call on in tribal areas and in afghanistan as pakistani military i believe has failed in clearing the TTP mess
@Asad Murtaza: There's no better way to eradicate them than to leave them with American missiles over their heads but in the process countless innocent civilian lives are lost - too much collateral damage
What happened to the actual liberals of pakistan who call imran taliban khan. You faux liberals getting a wake up call.
I thought about it. I think its planned conspiracy either to stop popularity of ik or lessen the pressure on America.
Amazing nation, I read comments that came surely from individuals who hate PTI/ Imran Khan more then the hate Taliban just because the party is gain more popularity then Taliban claiming lives.
All non-PTI supporters, with all due respect kindly think of what is best for Pakistan in any situation not what is best for your party instead. Yes Mr. Khan has been against drones and against army operation not because they are killing terrorist, but because these operations are killing innocent - I personally see drone as a good for Pakistan, but at the same time also agree with PTI that this is not the right solution given the cost associated to it.
Talibans have no religion, these are individuals born out of ribs of thieves, kidnappers, and terrorist that we allowed to prevail in so called 'illaqu-e-Geer' for many decades - the no men's land. As US leaves they (TTP) will focus on us more and Pakistan will be their primary target - just wait and see. Its key for them that no one comes into their part of world, as they don't want to see their power/fear/nor ideology compromised in anyway.
The message of TTP is signal of a bigger threat, and if nothing is done and no political forces comes to the region, then no matter what we the urban Pakistanis think we will be their next target...our our mothers, sisters, daughters, wives will live like slaves......and all those who think this is funny business will have a lot to think about when it happens.
Pakistan Zindabad
Hey TTP dont you dare think anything like this otherwise the Pakistani youth will crush you that bad you wont even remember what hit you through.
@AFGHAN:
Being a Afghani as you claim you might have a bit education about the difference between TTP and Talibans fighting your enemy AMericans on your soil on your behalf?
how interesting that this news is by AP (The Associated Press is an American news agency). Well Done AP !!!!
@numbersnumbers:
So do YOU reside there that you claim otherwise? ;)
As far as my claim is concerned, there are several comments even by Rehman Malik that they found Indian and Afghan Involvements of Aiding TTP one way or other, in past they found weapons and many other relevant documents. Google is your friend(only if you know how to use it)
With Love from TTP A.K.A (American Paid Killers)
Imran Khan needs to understand that drone strikes are not the real problem afflicting FATA but it's the people including TTP themselves. ….
TTP are correct, of course Imran Khan is a liberal fascist...
It seems like TTP have had plenty of success so far in their fight against drones. Who gives them the right to sit in judgement of another human being? Imran Khan is the ONLY hope in a country filled with absolute darkness. He will make Pakistan a safe, prosperous and progressive nation. VOTE FOR HIM if you want to better your lives and save Pakistan.
@Adnan: "Yeah your eyes don’t see many kids and women got burnt due to missiles? maybe because they are not from your family? You disgust to the core." ........ Really ? How many women and children you personally know who died in drone attacks ? Also these terrorists blow away men, women and children every single day in your city, why did that not disgust you ? Plus your esteem army had been dragging its feet for 10 long years to act on these terrorists, why did that not disgust you ? Deciding what act of barbarism is right is pretty common amongst Pakistanis (like you).
ik is going to lead a march to miranshah north waziristan- which is holly solly under control of hafiz gul bahadar group not under TTP.Gul bahadar group has already welcomed him. 80 % drones attacks r carried out in north waziristan.majority in waziristan like ik.lets see what is the reaction of hafiz gul bahadar group against this statement. moreover, it seems that the TTP spokeman is not fully understand the literal meaning of liberal.
TTP doesn't won't Imran Khan's help in drone attack? For the sake of Allah. Taliban this is not a issue about your dignity but also our. They are attacking pakistan's terrtories. Just because Taliban has a escape place in pakistan's north areas it doesn't mean that they own the whole pakistan! Stop to rule Pakistan. Muslims are running away from islam and this is your fault. What will the answere to the lord on the judgmentday. Imran or any other politicians wan't to stop drone attacks that can be called sympathi to taliban or any help to them. Pakistani army can eliminate TTP and many other terrorist in the whole pakistan but they are just using Taliban so they can fight US but at least se TTP they are acting as they are heroes of islam. I se Afghan taliban as heroes :P
Pakistanis must now try to understand that Taliban have a soft heart only for the "true Muslims" and in their dictionary, a true Muslim is the one among them. Also, they understand the fact that Khan's motto of this march is purely political rather than promoting Taliban agenda.
I saw this coming the moment he announced it. Though to be exact, I didn't think they were going to warn him first.
I don't think Imran khan is going there to help the TTP in as much as he's going to help the locals of the area. Once again thank you Musharraf for the "good decisions" you took such as no energy projects, or the red mosque attack and allowing US unchecked presence in the country.
It has been told for years that the Taliban made sanctuaries in Wazristan because the locals took them as their guest and the tribal takes pride in protecting their guest at any cost. Mullah Umer did the same by throwing the whole Afghanistan into a war and never asked his guest to get out of their country nor handed them over to the Americans but instead protected them even if it was at the cost of his country. Lets see if the modern brand of Taliban who proclaims to be the local tribal, respect the Pashtunwali by honoring their guest or they threaten him and forget all the ethical codes of Pushtu.as well as true Islam, if it's not the latest local brand of Islam.then.
Imran is pretending to be a politician at 60yrs . I bet he knows zero about Talibans. He will screw this country like mushy and altaf .
It is only the people who call him pro or anti taliban. He has always proposed a solution, but people unfortunately are only interested in framing him in one of the two extremes, without heeding to what he argues. Stop this war, stop drone strikes, start a political process, talk to those who are willing in particular the local tribals and try to get out of this mess. Where we stand today, military action has not helped.
We will only believe this, if TTP really bombs IK caravan and the the Pak Army nukes the whole area
Serves Mr. Khan well. Probably this will help him in clearing his smokescreen about Taliban turning into daisies once Americans exit!
@Really
Absolutely. This is, after all, Taliban Khan we are talking about.
this is only a fight for political space
Over last two decades we did not cared much when this ideology of hate was only targeting one community, we were thinking that they will never target us 'the majority'.... now it has come to this! we did not raise our voices when it was easier to tackle this monster... it is still not too late if we unite and do not compromise on the law and order and resolve to punish the criminals not matter who they are....
Ik always said that these are our people!!! Well Taliban Khan... Now what? You really want to impose these people on us by saving them like you always do?
Visit To The Valley Of Death. This won't materialize. Topi drama on the highest level. Even our army can not enter in those areas. They are only stationed on the outskirts. IK should rather concentrate on exposing NS & SS with all documentary proof in the court of his Mamo Iftikhar Chaudhery. .
And you wanted to have 'muzaakirat' with them Mr. Khan
Imran should do 90 Days dharna in Drone affected areas, only then he can prove his love for the people of Waziristan, we will take his one-day match(march) as just another attempt to point scoring.
@Adnan: why are they American backed? are you an Indian agent? its easy to blame everything on America....no these are Muslims from tribal area, and are local people, the people carrying guns and rockets firing at Pakistani troops are not from America.
Stop using this BS excuse.
@Najeebullah: I would like to kill a man who would prevent terrorists from being killed by drones, why the F would anyone stop anyone from killing terrorists? I have lost two family members to bombings and I find your comment very stupid.
@UTurn: trust me no one will care about the 3rd day......
Good, this should wake up the naive Khan, I am a real Pashto speaking Pashtun unlike Mr Khan who is a Pashtun in name only or PINO.
The day he said he wanted to make peace with the TTP i knew this guy knws nothing about the real Pashtun mindset, he may want to talk to him, but they want to cut his throat, they are very committed to their cause, Imran Khan or no Imran Khan, the only way for Pakistan to win this war is only and only through war, sometimes you have to give war a chance and this is the time.
After all if Sri Lanka could defeat the Tamil tigers with their suicide squads, why cant the Pak army go in for an all out assault, and just wipe out these people in a war of attrition.
TTP will only get more encouraged to attack Pakistan, every time it hears someone talk about peace because these people confuse peace with weakness.
Wake up Khan sahib, before they eliminate you.
Triban Insafian: very well said. I completely agree with you. As IK said, this is not a football match that either you are on our side or their side. He is the voice of common Pakistan, who is not extremist.
Taliban Khan and Taliban are having a top drama. This reminds me of a famous quote "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time. Abraham Lincoln
"This is not our war, this is America's war. We should get out of it" - Imran Khan 26 Dec,2011 Karachi rally
Bunch of thugs calling themselves TTP, they are all criminal mafia.
@Adnan: Please provide some proof about your "RAW and American backed TTP" comment! Also, please tell us that you reside in North Waziristan and have seen all with you own eyes!
@Rehan: More like he has the brains to not go since there's no knowing what these retarded TTPs are willing to do. There is no reason to risk his life for these people who are making no useful contributions to our country, rather they are causing internal problems and ruining the image of Pakistan internationally.
First the liberals, then the status quo (PPP and PMLN), then the moulvis (JUIF etc) and now the TTP, everyone threatened by the Tsunami. It shows the all these groups, entities, gangsters on one side and the people of Pakistan on the other side behind Kaptaan
What the Good Taliban say in this matter? Imran Khan is a courageous Pathan and a thread from bad Taliban will not stop him from his duty. You will see for the love of Pakistan he will go... He is not a coward!
this seems to have been plagiarized from the dawn news, or i dont know maybe the other way around?
It is a mukmucka between TIP & TTP to fool the people that TTP is against IK and to get sympathy votes in coming elections from the central-right minded voters.
Huh! amazing.... no one tries to see the all possible aspects of a picture.... Without much talk...
I always believed TTP is nothing but a shoulder where they (our Govt. or any other country's Govt. who do not like to bring peace in this country.) always put their gun to speak. And this time it's against Imran Khan....
Seems....PTI is getting red signal for elections.....since establishment sense threat from PTI & judiciary alliance will harm status quo in country..therefore......they will not be able to win majority....Now Establishment is working smoothly with ruling alliance and may try to give another chance in coming elections.....It is a bitter reality...But truth.....
@Muhammad Hassan ... None of the us "PTI Trolls" care about the TTP. We only care about our country and IK. May Allah keep him safe!
"said they would attack Khan because he calls himself a ‘liberal’, a term usually reserved by them for a person lacking religious belief."
Prophet Mohammad(saw) was the biggest liberal. Sure TTP is not liberal.
This is another proof that TTP is foreign funded and does not have any interests of Pakistan or Muslims at heart.
They are same people, same ideology with different exterior. Im sure he will be safe :)
The pashtun tribals will wipe these "Taliban" out if they ever decide to assassinate the great Khan. If you think IK means a lot to the ordinary Pakistani supporter of his, you have no idea what he means to most Pashtuns.
We will not accept help or sympathy from any infidel,” said Ahsan, referring to Khan. “We can fight on our own with the help of God,
there seems to be a flourshing cottage industry in, a muslim calling another muslim, a non-muslim.
sunni considers a shia, a non-muslim, and vice-versa.
they both consider ahmadi as non-muslim, and vice-versa.
wahabis consider barelvis as infidel, and vice-versa.
a great many number of you argue, that islam is for entire humanity....so, is it this islam that you want to hand out to others..... well, please spare others, the world is already divided and fractured....accepting such a kind of islam, will only cause further bloodshed.
"Ahsan added that the Taliban considered anyone who participates in elections, even Islamist parties, as infidels and will target them." Are you kidding me? If this is really what Ahsan Sahab said, then may I ask: Mr. Ahsan, whole of Pakistan, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, Egypt, Syria, Malayasia, Indonesia, and all other Muslim nation states are Kuffar, and only a microscopical minority among the Muslims, known as TTP, are Muslims?
@thewhigs .... buddy it's good to hear from you that No one has right to pass the judgment whether who is a good Muslim or a bad Muslim.
Why don't you extend this definition that no one has to decide whether someone is Muslim or not, except Allah SWT. However, the situation is at its worst now as whole Pakistan has become Taliban, where nobody's safe from Fatwas of Kufr, especially Ahmadis, who are considered to be a minority sect against their will. Now a bunch of fools will suggest me to go through the constitutional amendments in 1974.
My simple question is that would it be a SHIRK or not, if you're taking decisions which only Allah SWT has to take and nobody else its entitled to. No matter it's Taliban, Pakistan's parliament, general public, local mosque's imam, murderers of accused in Khanewal, or any one else over the planet. Beware. It's God's job. Let Him do.
Finally, now at this moment, IK has to play in a sensible way this time, otherwise another catastrophe is just around the corner. And it seems to be last life for Pakistan (God forbid)
Its better for Imran to listen his friends advice.
Serves Imran Khan right. Hopefully he will open his eyes now. I hate to say that we have no choice but to go after them with single minded ruthlessness. Every sane person prefers negotiation and compromise but these ideologically motivated barbarians are not willing to give an inch. PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG FOR GOD's SAKE
they are working for the enemies of pakistan
@Faheem: That's what happens when you try to appease a tiger. Anyway, it's good thing Mr. Khan learns it well before he gets into the portals of power so that at least he can shape a pragmatic policy in dealing with this menace as opposed to living in la la land.
Imran Khan needs to understand that drone strikes are not the real problem afflicting FATA but it's the people including TTP themselves.
@Faheem: So he must be doing something right.
Kind of throws a wrench into the Establishment backed TTP and PTI theory....
Naturally RAW and American backed TTP will never like someone comes in the region and talks against Drones, so our liberals.
@Asad Mirza: Yeah your eyes don't see many kids and women got burnt due to missiles? maybe because they are not from your family? You disgust to the core.
You touch Imran and the entire youth of Pakistan will march upon you. Be warned. Bring it on.
Please allow me to come up, on this occasion, with one of the most inane apolitical statements that the IK-supporting middle urban class usully makes. 'Yeh hum nahi'.
IK's help isnotdeservedby these stupid people! Both IK & Taliban have something in common. Establishment ofislamicstate. & IK has always supported these people which these people don't deserve.
I'll support IK, as far as he'll oppose Taliban. This was the only reason I wasn't on his side. Umeed hai ke Kaptaan ke khoon ke garmi ab in mercenaries ke haq mein josh nahee mare gee. And I humbly request IK to get rid of this DPC and JI sort of stuff. They're chips of the same block. And if he's one of them, then I've no reason to support him. And if he's thinking that he's using them to get support and will get rid of them after elections, then it would be again a disastrous situation for Pakistan. If anyone doesn't believe me, just hover over past 4 decades, and see what these mullahs did to ZAB.
Well this is weird.Let's see what happens.
The Taliban are not getting the sense of freedom. Because they just want the injustice with them that has been going own for many decades. They have carved their own way of destruction. Thus they must abandon the innocent killings, and must adopt a way that Our Holy Prophet Muhammad PBUH told and practiced in their life.
Imran Khan a liberal? In what universe?
It would appear that negotiating with the TTP maybe more difficult that IK thought -- looks like appeasement isn't going to buy as much he thought.
Good show by TTP, now Khan should devise a new hypocritical strategy.
“We can fight on our own with the help of God,” he said, as, ironically, drones flew overhead. This is just so funny. I wonder which prophet's or which khalifa's sunnah are TTP following. If anything, they are following the path of Abu Lahab, Yazid and Ibn-e-muljim.
Mr. Imran Khan, Chief of the PTI should postpone his visit as there may be possible life risk for him in Wazirsitan.
This shows that Imran Khan and PTI have been wrong on the war on terror all along. Catering to the populist themes while ditching the sacrifices of forty thousand Pakistani citizens did not even buy Imran Khan enough goodwill with the extremists, with whom he wants to have peace talks all the time. This does not sound like a visionary leadership to me. Caveat Emptor!
IK the real leader. Liberals call him "Taliban Khan" and PMLN trolls call him "Jew Agent". Status Quo Parties call him "New to Politics". So much opposition But he stand firm. May Allah Bless him.
although I am not a supporter of Imran (for the record I dont support any politicians as a principle), I hope he remains safe and unhurt. I think no one can argue that Imran is keeping politicians honest and ensuring structural changes that will have huge ramifications in ensuring more democratically elected governments in the future. for example, he is ensuring fake names from voter lists are removed, he moved the SC on campaign finance reforms, etc. just an example of the good he has brought. although I think he will never be a big name in pakistan politics, he can do good and for that i hope he remains safe.
TTP is just a bunch of cowards who target innocent men, women and children. What else can you expect from an ignorant bunch of bullies who feel no shame in killing unarmed civilians in the name of religion. Shame on you TTP and all that you stand for in your cowardly ways. We do not want your opinion on how to run the country. We do not need a state on your perception of religion or reality. What you represent is the dark age of ignorance that we can certainly do without. Your so called ideal state is nothing more than a hellish pit where there would be no progress and no advancement. If you think that ordinary people will a support you, you are sadly mistaken - people do not support you for what you believe in but because they are scared of what you can do just like any sane person would be scared of a lose rabid dog. And it is prudent to be scared of such an animal. But rest assured that the best way of handling such a creatur is to put it down. And that is what should happen with the TTP. You can threaten to kill and kill as many of us as you like but unlike you we are not going to run and hide. We will stand our ground and take back what is ours!
PTI trolls will now be at a loss for what to say because their beloved Muslim TTP has threatened their leader.
This is a slap to the face of anyone who thinks Imran Khan is a fundamentalist.
Their threat matters to those who are coward. And I am a firm believer that this peace caravan will be lead by Imran Khan and will return safe no matter what. Imran would carry the good wishes and prayers of millions of people and I know he isn't the one who make decisions on fears.
It seems that there is no cure for stupidity . . . but this is par for the course as far as TTP is concerned.
The Taliban are animals. They'll bite even those who're trying to help them out. I say let them rot under american missiles if they threaten to kill great leaders like IK.
There's a reason why the west is flourishing and our religious maniacs are getting killed in drone strikes. Only the ones with logic get to survive. Others go extinct
“We will not accept help or sympathy from any infidel,” said Ahsan, referring to Khan. Fake Liberals call him "Taliban Khan". Taliban call him "Infidel". Both extremist groups (Liberal Fascists & Taliban Extremists) fail to understand that Imran Khan is neither Taliban Khan nor Infidel. Imran Khan is what the overwhelming majority of Pakistan is; "Concerned Pakistani" who is a moderate Muslim sandwiched between the two extremist ideas of liberal fascism vs religious extremism. Imran Khan is representative of the 99% Pakistanis who +++ neither condone the killings of Shias in Quetta, Gilgit, Parachinar or Quetta nor the indiscriminate killings by American drones. +++ are disgusted at the suicide bombings as well as military operations. +++ are saddened by disappearances of Baloch in Balochistan as much as the killings of innocent settlers by Baloch militants..
Poor Imran Khan: Liberals call him 'Taliban Khan' whereas the TTP calls him 'Liberal Khan'
Imran Khan must take his security seriously.
still people believe will him as a supporter of taliban ideology because they want some pot holes every time ..this nation if will not elect him this time then this would be the death for this nation.coz zardari and Nawaz will not spare even the bones.
This threat will give an impetus to the Waziristan March and increase the popularity of Imran khan. the threat is hollow and will be mended at a later stage,
You know, I am beginning to believe the TTP are like rabid dogs, attacking anyone or anything that crosses their path without any rationality! They have a diseased mind that is full of hate! I do not consider them Muslims!
Crap! TTP put their position into further doubt. All those who have bit of sympathy for them, this is eye opener.
Welcome to the real world, Mr. Khan. I hope this will make you rethink who is in control in the tribal areas and who is the real enemy?
This is how Taliban would treat everyone if they succeed in establishing their promised khilafah. But we don't want IK to die. He is needed by lesser Talibans back in settled areas.
I guess this should be an answer to the people who tag IK with Taliban and call him Taliban Khan..This has also made the March to waziristan more challenging and daring one..
Imran khan that we all know is a very brave person and the decision for March to waziristan could only be made by a leader like Imran Khan. Alot of people in Pakistan will now be thinking That IK will call off the Mach but as much we know IK, I can bet this threat will only make him more determined for the Cause. We all know IK has very strong relegious belief and i dont think such a threat can affect IK..
Taliban have a misconception that IK's protest against drone strikes is for Taliban, the protest is for the innocent people who are killed in the name of collateral damage and which in return is resulting in increase of taliban support in that region...and Taliban would be lovin it.
This is Noora Kushti between partners to make PTI more acceptable internationally
Of course they will threaten the one man who is trying to make things better. TTP knows they will be out of business if and when the problems of the area are solved.
Imran Khan! Please do not be taken aback by these mindless savages.
Go ahead with your long march and we will see what the TTP can do. The citizens are getting sick of fighting America's war on terrorism and we will see what their sponsors can do.
Salams
Taliban Khan should realize these talibans are nobody's friends. They only know one thing and that is to kill kill kill
slam! may Allah save him for the betterment of Pakistan and make enemies failed in their attempts. thanks
Simply put: IK doesn't have the guts to go through with the march.
I Love Imran,Will Go to Mars if he says so
How stupid they are, They are killing a man who wants to protect them (terrorists) from drone strikes:)
I'm sorry but if they do anything to harm Imran, the entire Pakistani nation will rise up against the TTP and this time it will be a fight to the death.
If the TTP want peace they should stop making threats to a man who comes in peace.
This TTP is pure joke or a genuine conspiracy of prolonging the turmoil in Pakistan.
oooops !!!!!!
These are our people. Aren't they Mr. Khan?
Imran to Talibans: You too, Brutus? :P
Even Shakespeare couldn't have written a better drama then Pakistan.
TTP is controlled by foreign enemies of Pakistan, who don't want peace in Pakistan.
that's all TTP can do...Threatening & Killings....Why are they Muslims??I hate them...