Seraiki province: Zardari orders Gilani to initiate consultative process

Published: April 14, 2012

President Asif Ali Zardari arrived on his first visit to Multan on Saturday. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

MULTAN: President Asif Ali Zardari has called upon Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani to immediately start consultative process with all the political parties with a view to make a separate Seraiki province in South Punjab, said a press release on Saturday.

The president said this during his meeting with the delegation of Pakistan Peoples Party’s (PPP) lawyer forum at the Prime Minister’s House Multan.

Spokesperson to the President Senator Farhatullah Babar, while giving details of the meetings held today, said that the president maintained that this was not politics but was meant to respect and honour the aspiration of the people of South Punjab who have been feeling deprived for the last sixty years and were demanding their just rights.

The president said that the PPP promised to give identity to the people of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and that they had fulfilled their promises.

“Similarly we gave rights to our Balochi brothers and the people of Gilgit-Baltistan.” Now, he said, we have promised the people of this belt to cater to their aspirations and we would do our best to honour our commitment.

He said that the people of this area have every right to demand and have their own province and the party leadership respected their wishes and aspirations. He added that this was the right time to give what people have been asking for so long.

“If giving rights to the people is a crime, we will continue to commit such crimes,” Senator Babar quoted the president as saying.

The President warned that if a viable solution for a new south Punjab province is not evolved, then militancy will hijack the vision and life of the people. He was addressing members of People’s Lawyer’s Forum of south Punjab in Prime Minister Camp in Multan. He said that people of the region were already fighting alongside terrorists in the mountains.

“We have already found that students of the madaris of the region are fighting in the mountain along with terrorists. If people of south Punjab will not be given their due right, their reaction will be dreadful,” he warned. The issue was not about politics but, about the existence of a stable Pakistan, he added.

South Punjab province will be announced before the next general elections but it will be done after comprehensive consultation. I have given orders to initiate the consultation about the name of the province and provincial boundary.

He said that they were aiming for an economically viable province started before the next general elections.

Defending the Prime Minister

Visiting his Prime Minister’s hometown, Zardari rallied support for Gilani, “Gilani is a man of crisis, and he knows very well how to face challenges.” Suggesting that there were some who wished differences develop between the President and Prime Minister, he fared them a fair warning, “there were no differences between me and Gilani, nor will there ever be.”

“I appreciate his services for the people of Pakistan and I am proud of him,” he added.

The president assured the gathering that the PPP would not let anything happen to Pakistan’s sovereignty and will sacrifice the party for Pakistan’s integrity.

Earlier, he said that the biggest reason of his visit to Multan was to defend his Prime Minister and his sons against a targeted strategy.

“I had been targeted in the same manner in the past and people had been forced to become witness against me in the narcotics case,” Zardari said.

Terming it a character assassination Prime Minister and of his sons, Zardari said that Gilani was brave and fully aware the bogus campaign against him. Hinting towards certain quarters, Zardari said that the Multan native had been targeted only after they brought up the topic of Seraiki province and backed the President.

He said that the party had complete consensus over the need for a south Punjab province. A name for this province will be decided and announced by Gilani.

Roaring at the Tiger

Lashing out at the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N), Zardari quipped, “if we want, we can take away the government from PML-N, but we respect the mandate given to them by the people of Pakistan.”

Explaining execution of power, he said that all his ministers were independent and powerful because he wanted them to be empowered since they were representatives of the people of Pakistan.

“But you can also see the Chief Minister of Lahore who does not want to share even a single ministry. Its people who empower to share their power and resolve their problems, it was never you who would empower people,” the President jibed.

Zardari is on his first official visit to Multan, where the Prime Minister House is his temporary residence.

Strict security measures have been taken and Multan has been declared a red alert zone for the duration of president’s visit.

All political leaders of PPP southern Punjab were called to Multan for the final decision on the Seraiki province.

As per sources, PPP has completed the constitutional framework and all paperwork for the creation of a Seraiki province.

Earlier, PPP southern Punjab President Makhdum Shahabuddin had said that the president will be announcing the creation of a Seraiki province after the senate elections, adding that he would be doing so in person.

Correction: In an earlier version of the article, ‘Zardari’ was misspelled in the headline. The error has been rectified.

Reader Comments (84)

  • Hasan Awan
    Apr 14, 2012 - 2:12PM

    I have heard that Sargodha and Khushab are going to be a part of Seraiki Province. We dont want to be a part of Seraikistan. Please we are Punjabis and we have dialect difference but we always consider our self as Punjabis and never differentiate with rest of Punjab, Please keep Sargodha and Khushab out of this mess. Sargodha and Khushab are my cities and we always want to be with Punjab and we are Proud to be Punjabis. Punjabi have many Dielects but have one Culture and We are with Punjab Culturally rather than with anyone else.
    Mr Zardari keep my districts out of this mess. Long live Seraiki People but please dont include my City in this mess as we are Punjabis.

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  • Qaisrani
    Apr 14, 2012 - 2:13PM

    That will be great service to Saraikis and for pakistan.

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  • Faheem Tassadaq Minhas
    Apr 14, 2012 - 2:14PM

    This guy should rather be in Karachi at the time when the city is burning… but oh yes.. why would he care… he has to strengthen his chances for next elections..Recommend

  • fool
    Apr 14, 2012 - 2:41PM

    Zaradri !!

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  • Jamil Niazi
    Apr 14, 2012 - 2:43PM

    I hope Mianwali will remain with Punjab. We have integrated well in Punjab and in majority are culturally Punjabis. I hope people of Mianwali will remain in Punjab. Munir Niazi was among of us and land of punjab have given us so much and in the end we want to betray this land of love and tolerance.

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  • Pakistani
    Apr 14, 2012 - 2:50PM

    @ hasan anwar dude its an administrative province cultural affiliations are not (and should) not be a concern at least not a major one.

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  • Avatar
    Apr 14, 2012 - 2:57PM

    Zardari = Next Level :D

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  • Hassan Bokhari
    Apr 14, 2012 - 2:59PM

    President Zardari is one of the most progressive president’s this country has ever seen. Bravo sir!Recommend

  • Hasan Awan
    Apr 14, 2012 - 3:03PM

    @Pakistani: Brother a small correction It is Awan not Anwar and Awans or Maliks are famous clan of Sargodha, Khushab and Chakwal region.
    Brother the point is that i belong from that region and i know it very well what is going on there. If it would be administrative then its name could be named South Punjab or anything else to represent all language speakers and ethnicities but it is going to be named specifically on the basis of one language speakers Seraiki. Just like in KPK after naming it on the basis of one language speaker Hazaras agitation evolved then in the similar manner when we will be aliens in our own land or will be indebted to someone else then civil agitation could erupt here. Seraikis of Multan which are mostly Baloch Tribes differentiate with Punjabis on every matter. They always find way and means to differentiate with Punjabis weather on linguistic lines or on cultural lines or any other matter..
    We always consider Lahore as our Capital and again i would reiterate that Sargodha and Khushab my cities will remain with Punjab. If division have to be made then only on Administrative basis and on Neutral name basis otherwise we reject it at all costs.

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  • gujranwala789
    Apr 14, 2012 - 3:04PM

    Ok let him do this, and when PMLN will come into power they should immediatley divide Sindh between many sub-provinces, it will be tit for tat. Those who live by sword have to die also by sword.

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  • Sajjad Ali
    Apr 14, 2012 - 3:12PM

    More provinces will improve the poor administrative issues and also improve access of masses to their leadership. Additional provinces in KPK and Sindh will solve the law and order situation in these two volatile provinces permanently.We should not take it in the perspective of language, rather we should consider them purely administrative issues to enhance good governance. Long live a peaceful Pakistan. Hate Fanaticism.. Love peace and Humanity.

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  • Ajab
    Apr 14, 2012 - 3:13PM

    Mr Zardari – We need Mahajar Province as well

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  • Akram
    Apr 14, 2012 - 3:16PM

    Only punjab is peacefull currently – ppp want voilence in punjab as well. Please have mercy on punjab and keep your claws off punjab

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  • Shafika
    Apr 14, 2012 - 3:18PM

    Allah Pakistan per rehm karey – can expect anything better from ppp

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  • Salman Orangiwala
    Apr 14, 2012 - 3:20PM

    Interesting , and I am lovin’ it .How people are pleading not to / to include/exclude certain geographical regions in some new would be province .

    We are dumbstruck by the sheer zestful strategy Mr.Zardari is placing the pawns on the political chessboard .Benazir might have been a good politician , but in comparison to Zardari , i bet , none in the hsitory of Paksitan were as ” dexterous ” in manipulating the given situations and coming out as a winner , amazingly absurd !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

    Look how he has cornered his oppsition , the judiciary , his allies , the mighty army and still not only alive but also kicking .Not to mention he has already tamed the vortex of power the US of A .My “salute” to Mr.Zardari .

    BTW , if there could be a new province for the Seraikis , we will areguabley have all the rights for a Muhajir suba in Karachi .Lets see how Zardari deals with that .

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  • Ahsan
    Apr 14, 2012 - 3:30PM

    There must be a roadmap of how many provinces there should be, what cities will be their part and what system will run them.

    A thorough debate is required before jumping to something and creating a mess.

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  • Apr 14, 2012 - 3:44PM

    President Sahib partitioning Punjab is a good idea, but it should be purely on an administrive basis and not on the basis of ethno linguistic lines, also i think you should partition thenprovince of Balochistan, it is administratively very large to manage, and also creating 2 provinces can address the political ambitions of some of those unsatisfied and politically active in the province, at the same time it can break the power of the seperatist traitors. Balochistan should be partitioned into 3 provinces, upper Balochistan, Central and a third province covering Makran region from Lasbela to Gwadar/Pasni.
    Long live Pakistan, Pakistan Zindabad

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  • Blithe
    Apr 14, 2012 - 4:07PM

    Zardari cannot wake up one fine day and do this.
    There is a conditional process that requires the provincial assembly
    to first pass a 2/3rd resolition.

    Zardari is a devisive figure.
    So is Gilani. They are trying to play ethnic card to
    hide poor performance , not to mention the
    contempt case against Gilani in the Supreme Court,

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  • DevilHunterX
    Apr 14, 2012 - 4:16PM

    A province for each Minister! Recommend

  • truepak
    Apr 14, 2012 - 4:16PM

    It seems that to the govt the only issue that must be resolved more urgently than loadshedding,corruption and lawlessness is the creation of new provinces.This shows that our govt doesnt give a damn about the problems of the common Pakistanis

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  • Qaisrani
    Apr 14, 2012 - 4:18PM

    @Mr Awan.

    Keep the facts right.These are Punjabis who have looted the Saraikis and Balochs not the way around as you are claiming that Baloch always oppose Punjabis.Have you never visited Saraikistan and witnessed the difference between Punjab and Saraikistan??Between this Sargodha and Khushab are part of Punjab,you are right.We d’not have claim over these districts.But Bhakkar and Mianwali are Saraikis and must be part of proposed province.

    @Niazi sb.

    Please ask the people of Mianwali to whom they would prefer to live,Punjab or Saraikistan.Do some research yourself and you will find the will what the people want.They have more in common with Saraikistan than Punjab.D’not just quote Munir Niazi.What about Legend Attah Ullah EsaKhelvi and others?

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  • Kamran Sarmad
    Apr 14, 2012 - 4:28PM

    Without asking the people what they want how they can say they are going to create some province on the basis of one Ethnic Seraiki line. There should be a referendum and those regions who dont want to be a part of Seraiki province these districts should be left alone and in Punjab. In my city Sahiwal Baloch tribes have told us that now we are going to be a part of their greater Seraikistan. Are we are Slave of somebody that our fate will be decided by Gailani or Zardari? We are not Slaves of anybody that our fate is decided by non locals.

    How come Sahiwal whose name was given on the basis of Sahi which are Kharal Jat and Rajput Punjabis is now going to be a Part of Seraikistan?. Jats and Rajputs have their own History of being in Punjab for a long time. PPP just want to divide the people on the basis of language to get more votes, create hatred and nothing else. My friends in Bahwalpur and Bahawalnagar also concede with me and never want to be with Seraikistan.
    Bahawalpur wants division on administrative grounds and majority of Bahawalnagar is with Punjab.

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  • ghayas
    Apr 14, 2012 - 4:34PM

    Punjab should be bifurcated in to three province for the convenience of punjabis .i will be good for the the people of punjab,there will be new jobs new opportunities.

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  • A. Khan
    Apr 14, 2012 - 4:35PM

    Well, they divide Punjab up. MQM will support the PPP in order to do that. However, the next step would be for MQM to demand their province by dividing Sindh up. Be careful of what you sow.

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  • Johny
    Apr 14, 2012 - 4:37PM

    We want HAZARA province.. we are struggling for it.

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  • Kamran Sarmad
    Apr 14, 2012 - 4:41PM

    @gujranwala789: What a joke. PMLN is the biggest traitor of People of Punjab, PMLN have removed Punjabi language from courses and replaced it with Urdu. Now Punjabi is completely removed from all courses of Punjab and thanks to PMLN for this disastrous step. Are you of the view that the Party which hates our language so much that they removed it from Courses will do something for us?. PMLN cannot do anything for us neither PTI as in PTI all leaders are from Multan and Shah Mehmood and Javed Hashmi while in their cities say that Takht e Lahore is looting you and create hatred but when they came in lahore they say we love Lahore while in their cities they are responsible for Hatred Campaigns to get votes.

    Punjab needs a local party right now not a national party to safeguard its people’s interest and to throw both PTI and PMLN out of Politics of Punjab who are not sincere to this land of Punjab. We need a Stronger Local Party of Punjab like Karachi have MQM to safeguard the interest of our people otherwise opportunists people will keep on disintegrating our beautiful land and will destroy our culture and traditions for forever. We in Punjab dont divide on the basis of Language but we are Culturally Punjabis and anyone born and bred here and whoever accepts its traditions and culture we consider that person a Punjabi and we should be united to end this merry making of politicians in our land.

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  • Truth Hurts
    Apr 14, 2012 - 4:51PM

    Just to get some votes they are now going to divide Punjab…. keep dreaming!!Recommend

  • Saad
    Apr 14, 2012 - 4:57PM

    All non-muhajirs here demanding a muhajir province:

    Please know that Muhajirs are not demanding a separate province. MQM the representative party of Muhajirs is quite aware that Muhajirs are not a majority in Karachi and a separate province would not lead them anywhere except their further marginalisation as large chunks of the community would remain outside the proposed province.

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  • Adeel
    Apr 14, 2012 - 5:03PM

    Just a political stunt.

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  • Faisal
    Apr 14, 2012 - 5:05PM

    The way people claiming for their own provinces for example Seraiki, Hazara ,Mohajir etc. and this situation further goes on then I’m afraid in future Pakistan will become another Yugoslavia.

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  • shaz
    Apr 14, 2012 - 5:16PM

    For administrative purposes, district governments are the best option. When all administrative, financial and political powers are supposed to be devolved to district level as per Article 140A, what is this itch to destroy our hydraulic, geographic and historic unity of Punjab during the modern era?

    There are 29 dialects of Punjabi, wouldn’t there be demand for separate provinces for the elite clubs of all dialects? Why do we want to open Pandora Box of new issues? These issues are like new water apportionment accord, new NFC agreement, replacement works like when the Indus basin was divided in 1947(do we have financial capacity even to contemplate this kind of project?), high-priced new army of chief ministers, ministers, baboos, new assemblies, new high courts and housing for the sons and daughters of feudal/ tribal elite clubs. As a reaction, all provinces will end up in this vicious cycle (remember, actions and reactions are equal and opposite).

    Obviously, these are diversionary tactics applied by our failed leadership not to addressed real issues and crises like jobs, energy, gas,water,education, development, etc. Myself being from southern Punjab, why shouldn’t we insist to have benefits of industrialized central Punjab be shared? We all are Punjabis as we live within the boundaries defined by the command areas of Punjab’s rivers. Khawja Ghulam Farid. Munir Niazi, Ahmad Nadeem Qasmi, Mian Mohammad Bakhsh, Waris Shah, Bulley Shah and so may others are our (even for those Punjabis who live on the other side of our border) great Punjabi Poets. Those who want to divide us are bent upon to introduce Karachi model at mega level; those who want to push Punjab into violent mode are part of problem and not part of solution.

    Solution for our problems is simple that the powers to be devolved to lowest level like district, tehsil, union council and village level to let common people shape their own lives as per their wishes. dialects, traditions under slight varied conditions of Punjab. Let the common person to think about common issues and their own solutions instead protecting interests of the sons and daughters of regional elites. Let us not be-fooled by those who want us to divide and rule, rather think about what is good for the common people of Punjab.

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  • gujranwala789
    Apr 14, 2012 - 5:30PM

    @Kamran Sarmad:

    I dont care about “punjabi” language as no such standard language exists, we have a city hafizabad just 50 KM west of gujranwala which was once part of gujranwala district and the language there sounds more like shahpuri dialect of sargohda, this language which is called punjabi has so many variations in pakistan that it is impossible to make a standard punjabi language out of all the dialects that will satisfy the speakers of different dialects in punjab, what you call punjabi is actually a pure lahori dialect and you want to impose it on others who love their local dialects so I fully support PMLN government´s policy to use urdu and english as the medium of education to avoid any linguistic confusion in the territory of punjab.

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  • Maryam
    Apr 14, 2012 - 5:38PM

    It will be another milestone achieved by the PPP government if arrived. Unfortunate Seriaki people are constantly put under the control of Takhti-Lahore while keeping them poor and oppressed. This will be the real independence of these people. I am for it, and do it Mr President & PPP.

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  • Blithe
    Apr 14, 2012 - 5:42PM

    Nothing is going to happen.
    No Seriki province is going to come about.

    A famous William Shakespeare quote: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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  • Blithe
    Apr 14, 2012 - 5:44PM

    Just a way to distract from Supreme court cases.

    They want to go down as “Seriki martyrs” to hide corruption.

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  • Hasan Awan
    Apr 14, 2012 - 5:55PM

    @Qaisrani: My Qaisarani brother that is what i was talking about. Again you blame one language speakers for everything. That is what I said that it is a biased thinking in some people in Multan and is arising from Ignorance and hatred which in my view should not have any place in the world where now we have media and awareness to decide what is right and what is wrong.
    Division on linguistic lines is not a solution. Division on Administrative lines is the way forward. There is nothing wrong in promoting local language and cultures but one majority should not try to emphasize that some land belong to one Language Speaker. Just think about Karachi. If this province will be made on the basis of language then tell me what will happen in Karachi when Urdu Speaker will demand a Separate province and then in my view there will be a civil war.
    The world is emphasizing that how to integrate various nationalities and how to found a common grounds and in pakistan we are going the other way around and trying to find out each and every problem that could divide us.

    Also one thing more regarding Mianwali then rememeber Niazis are not owners of Mianwali. Other than the City neighbouring region like Kalabagh of Mianwali belong to Awans. Just search Kalabagh of Mianwali history. Nawab of Kalabagh was the leader of Awans. If that is the case then Awans of Kalabagh want their Princely state of Kalabagh back who was run by Our Nawab Amir Muhammad Khan Awan. Our leader Amir Muhammad Awan decided to join the princely state of Kalabagh with Pakistan and we decided to live with Punjab in 1947 and still decision of Nawab of Kala Bagh is valid for us.

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  • AA
    Apr 14, 2012 - 6:01PM

    Punjab is too big for the good of the country. Saraiki province is not only good for better governance but is also a very smart political move by Zardari and Gilani.

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  • Apr 14, 2012 - 6:19PM

    Its great if it happens.

    But is it confirmed news? Seems like nobody else has reported it other than Express. Any idea?

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  • Kamran Sarmad
    Apr 14, 2012 - 6:19PM

    @gujranwala789: Well for your info standard Punjabi now exist.. Especially in North America and in Canada extensive work have been done. From fourth to 9th grade now you have programs to learn a Generalized Punjabi language in Canada and even in universities you can learn it. Our government cannot do anything but Canadian government take the lead and give funding for these projects . In Canadian Universities now Standard Punjabi is offered as a course.

    http://education.alberta.ca/teachers/program/interlang/punjabi.aspx

    Also One association in North America have started working for a generalized Program of Punjabi and they are gathering all Standard literature in one place for a generalized language..
    Please visit their website.

    http://www.apnaorg.com/

    So please before supporting certain party do some research. If Canada can work for One General Punjabi language then why our parties did nothing in our country?. But thankfully we are very close to a one generalized Language and these same courses taught in Canada can be transformed in Shahmukhi and can be taught in Punjab Pakistan as well.

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  • Born Political
    Apr 14, 2012 - 6:20PM

    PPP, You cant keep taking such open revenge from Punjab. They will note vote you and they will never vote you.

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  • Imran Mohammad
    Apr 14, 2012 - 6:22PM

    Zardari is a great leader, I wish we have more leaders like him. @ET are you happy?

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  • Dr V. C. Bhutani
    Apr 14, 2012 - 6:33PM

    I am an Indian citizen and a non-Muslim Punjabi from Rawalpindi. I use languages like Hindi, Urdu, Punjabi, English, and some other languages for my research. In India a good 55 years ago we were in the midst of similar demands for new provinces. We resorted to the expedient of appointing a States Reorganisation Commission to consider and recommend how the entire territory of India should be reorganized and regrouped in different provinces, which we called states. The commission in its wisdom recommended that states should be reorganized on the basis of language. And so it was. India was reorganized on the basis of language, bringing speakers of one language into a single administrative unit. I am afraid the result has not been entirely good. By now, more than half a century after the reorganization, we now feel that it would have been much better to group areas on economic considerations. India has so many languages and cultural groups. So has Pakistan. I would beg of my brethren in Pakistan to give a thought to the idea of making new provinces in Pakistan on the basis of economic factors, not language or culture. I have just offered an external observation of a non-Pakistani. I am sure people of Pakistan will know what is best for them. V. C. Bhutani, Delhi, India, 14 Apr 2012, 1900 IST

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  • uet
    Apr 14, 2012 - 6:35PM

    Punjab is only peaceful province in Pakistan right now. Punjabis dont vote for PPP and PPP going to revenge this by causing linguistic and ethnic hatred.

    :

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  • Saeen
    Apr 14, 2012 - 6:48PM

    During the last 64 years we were literally ruled by the Punjabi establishment while the seraiki Waseeb was drowned in poverty, ignorance and illiteracy. Out of 35 districts of Punjab, 15 districts of Seraikee Waseeb literacy ratio below 40% while the Punjabi Speaking literacy rate is above 75%. This is due to the constant neglect of the Takhti-Lahore and Yes the PPP should win the hearts and minds of the people of Seraikee Waseeb. This is our long-lasting demand.

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  • sonofsoil
    Apr 14, 2012 - 6:50PM

    @Kamran Sarmad:
    I agree with you PPP, PTI and PMLN are so called federal parties, they give damn to local rights. Punjab should have their own local party. It’s very absurd that people of Punjab hates their own language and culture naming it “peendo culture”. How long will this continue. Learn to love your language, history, traditions. Otherwise Punjab will loose its identity once for all in the name of religion and patriotism. Learn some lesson from Indian Punjab. Save your identity!

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  • gujranwala789
    Apr 14, 2012 - 6:54PM

    @Kamran Sarmad:

    Pakistan is not canada, i think you are perhaps a canadian by citizenship so please leave us alone and keep your suggestion for your countrymen in canada, you dont have any clue about the variation of dialects spoken in pakistani punjab and how fanatically people like their own dialects.

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  • Indus
    Apr 14, 2012 - 7:22PM

    @gujranwala789:

    Having multiple dialects of any language is common whether it is Sindhi, English or arabic and it is not bad at all. But there is always way to find some unified standardized pattern of Language. Give you example of my province Sindh. We have so many dialects of Sindh language, but we all enjoy diversity of dialects but we all use Hyderabadi dialect as main dialect for studies. Our Sindhi education is mostly based on Hyderabadi dialect because it has long been used in business, literature and poetry. Sindhi literature is now more rich because people of different dialects bring their novelty to literature.

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  • Muhammad Usman
    Apr 14, 2012 - 7:54PM

    Mr Zardari You are laying foundation for division of sindh.
    Punjab will have no problem with Seriaki Province as this will come with a bahawalpur and hazara province. This means 75 more senate seats and majority in council of common intrest.

    zardari and gillani are playing with fire. they dont understand the implications and cost.

    any way good luck to seriaki folks. i will be happy for them and hope they will let bhawalpur a peaceful province and dont try to impose takhte multan on bahwalpur

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  • Muhammad Usman
    Apr 14, 2012 - 8:10PM

    no legislator from bhawalpur province will vote for seriaki province only period.
    a 2/3rd majority is needed in any provincial assembly.
    any thing deviating from this obligation will lead to the many provinces
    Mark my words KARACHI will be the first one

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  • sunder khan
    Apr 14, 2012 - 8:54PM

    @Johny:
    Demand for Hazara Sooba is genuine and must be accepted. Similarly, Hyderabad and Karachi should be made a separate province.

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  • A2Z
    Apr 14, 2012 - 8:58PM

    After reading above comments one thing is absolute clear, people of Pakistan deserve corrupt and looters rulers. Instead of debating about the issue “Why he is doing this thing at this time of the point” they are debating about separate province. What this govt has delivered in the last four years doesn’t matter but this issue of provinces is more important for ignorant people of Pakistan. Bravo! we deserve even more corrupt and looters as our “RULERS”

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  • Freeman
    Apr 14, 2012 - 9:28PM

    PPP new stunt as always to win next election. Why at this moment they are desperate for the new province. They have not decided 3 years ago. This is because Last 4 years they have done nothing and made Paksitan a Joke. Now PPP party knows that no one will give them vote. They started suddenly this new Province Drama. They want to buy votes from Simple and poor Sarieke people.

    This is one hundred percent a political motivated for the next election.

    We know that Paksitan needs new provices but this People’s Party govt. have no credibility left and they are trying to target simple and poor people to get votes.

    We all know Pakistan needs new provinces but this govt. should leave this now to new in comming govt. as they already wasted 4 years.

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  • Freeman
    Apr 14, 2012 - 9:30PM

    After 5 years of wasting People Party govt. from now on will announce new Plans everyday to buy votes.

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  • Atif Bashir
    Apr 14, 2012 - 9:51PM

    Bahawalpur need their province restoration not creation. Most Pakistani have this conception that they are making demands. Mind it that bahawalpur is a state which chosen Pakistan on partition. In 1952 it is separate province & lately merged into Punjab by politicians.
    No Industry developed in Bahawalpur state from from last 66 years. All the budget used in upper Punjab
    We need Subah Bahawalpur back..

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  • Qaisrani
    Apr 14, 2012 - 10:09PM

    Either Saraikis should live virtually under slavery or there will be problem for federation of Pakistan.Strange logic.Saraikistan needs to be carned out at any criteria whether culturaly,geographical,backwardness etc.

    As far as Hazara province is concerned,they are most developed part of KPK.Still they want there own province.Same is the case with Karachi too.

    I wish some Punjabis here support PPP’s good initiative here.They claim that they are open hearted people.yet they are biased towards Saraikis and PPP.I have never seen any good comment for PPP.They support PMLN which is Punjabi centric party and plunders Saraikis of their due rights.

    Long Live Saraikistan and Pakistan.

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  • Ashfaq
    Apr 14, 2012 - 10:10PM

    Is this a time of making more provinces when the existing ones are under 18 hours of load shedding and roots of which are into the corruption and Looted wealth of the nation By Zardari and Gilani party. Why do not they bring this looted wealth back to pay the electric companies so that they can start Electricity production? These are not the elders of nation they are the decoits imposed from outside who only think of robbing national wealth. Recommend

  • Apr 14, 2012 - 10:26PM

    A good step taken by Mr President.

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  • Johny
    Apr 14, 2012 - 10:32PM

    @sunder khan

    If Zardari can make Seraiki provice then there is no harm for making Hazara and other provinces..if they won’t then it means there is just creating Seraiki province for something we don’t know.Many advance countries have several provinces– for eg JAPAN etc

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  • ProudPakistani
    Apr 14, 2012 - 10:32PM

    A very welcome step..!!

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  • Khwaja Salman
    Apr 14, 2012 - 10:40PM

    Federation of Pakistan Is

    1) imbalanced —> 56%punjab in NA
    2) Administrative requirement
    3) Protection of local heritage of seriki area
    4) Freeing the Seariki peoples from Oppressive punjabi leaders (not punjabi peoples)
    5) Protecting and providing due share in federation (water, NFC, TAX, Education etc)

    these….Giving name Seariki Province is not real issue. Issue is to solve the above mentioned issues a septate federal identity of Pakistan must be made.

    name can be anyone.

    This way Fedration of pakistan will be more strong and Sindi, baloch and pashton also have allegation of punjab’s virtual dictation, and this would be in the favour of Pakistan As whole.

    Recommend If you like and comment If you want to ask question.

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  • naji ullah shah
    Apr 14, 2012 - 10:43PM

    people of mianwali have not political awareness like u jamil sahb.u r seraiki not punjabi .punjabi exploited us since 1947.

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  • Khwaja Salman
    Apr 14, 2012 - 10:59PM

    @moderator

    Please publish my comment. Do not suppress my words its against media liberty.

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  • WB
    Apr 14, 2012 - 11:25PM

    People with comments pleading not to include this or that are just dumb! If you people read the 18 amendment it says that it is the Provincial Assemblies who decide if a province should be created or not and PPP don’t have majority in Punjab assembly, so take it easy.

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  • Hairaan
    Apr 14, 2012 - 11:46PM

    How come president from a small province order to divide the bigger province. These things require national consensus. Not to gain political advantage.

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  • butt jee
    Apr 14, 2012 - 11:52PM

    @Khwaja Salman:
    Khawaja sahib the real issue is finding a new Chief Minister’s slot for PM Gilani’s son. Who bothers about the welfare of the people.

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  • Khwaja Salman
    Apr 15, 2012 - 12:39AM

    @butt jee

    Let’s suppose PM want his son as new chief minister of new province. Would PM son will remain CM forever ?
    It has been proven, in past 60 years, that upper punjab leadership both dictator and civilian (I am not saying punjabi people) has failed to treat people of Balochistan, Sindh and seariki area with justice. They all except Bhutto, suppressed these people and Ultimately Punjab Virtual dictation came into exist (in media, army, judiciary etc).

    This also lead Balochistan to current situation. PM’s son dont deliver we will make his trail within 5 year and will decided our leadership by our own (youth).

    Another plus point. Sindh and balochistan do not trust Lahore over KALA BAGH DAM. If mew province made Sindhi and Baloch may agree to form KALA BAGH DAM by trusting MULTAN.

    So all this will make pakistan strong. And by the way seariki province is against the feudal of south punjab. If feudal want seariki province it woulld have been established very long ago.

    In fact i want new province to be made by PPP and new government in that province by PTI.

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  • Logic Europe
    Apr 15, 2012 - 12:40AM

    why are people somewhat afraid of new provinces .it will bring prosperity and accountability ,in Europe all powers lie with small units e.g counties ,small states .look at India new provinces being created.No matter what country will remain one

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  • sabar
    Apr 15, 2012 - 1:12AM

    PTI and Muslim league (N) should unite to get rid of PPP’s (most corrupt Gov’t ever)

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  • Qadir
    Apr 15, 2012 - 1:19AM

    Being a Prime Minister If Gilani could not do anything for welfare Saraiki people what his son will do after becomming chief minister of Saraiki province- please reject PPP in next election

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  • Karamat
    Apr 15, 2012 - 1:21AM

    Punjabis please unite against PPP

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  • Khwaja Salman
    Apr 15, 2012 - 1:23AM

    @Atif Bashir:
    For your kind information. True searikis of bahawalpur are in favour of Seariki Province. Now
    Muhammad Ali Durani don’t dare to come in public(in bahawalpur) with the demand of bahawalpur province.

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  • Khwaja Salman
    Apr 15, 2012 - 1:27AM

    @Muhammad Usman: Your mis-conception. Reality would be totally different. True supporter of Bahawalpur province, in 1970, when bwp province was not made, shaped their struggle for bwp province into Seariki Province.Recommend

  • Apr 15, 2012 - 3:22AM

    Sargodha, Khushab, Mianwali, and Jhang should be a province too. That should include Bhakkar as well. Time will definitely come for that.Taxila and Lahore could be another two provinces.

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  • wali baba
    Apr 15, 2012 - 3:35AM

    zardari uncle i want my own province. Recommend

  • Hasan Awan
    Apr 15, 2012 - 4:55AM

    @A.Bajwa: I agree. Geographically and administratively it would be wise as well. But is should be made on pure administrative grounds and culturally they should remain with Punjab. Mianwali, Khushab, Sargodha, Jhang, Chiniot and Bhakkar are adjacent regions geographically and it would be a great decision to make a them a separate province as in Administrative point of view it would be a great decision. Headquarters could be made in Sargodha or Jhang as they are bigger than other cities and all cities are in vicinity of them . But it i should again stress on pure administrative grounds and our cultural roots should remain the same with other people of this region. We dont want further divisions but we want it to divide on pure administrative ground to make this region more prosperous. These regions should spread love and tolerance not hate of any language speaker or any culture.

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  • Jamil Niazi
    Apr 15, 2012 - 5:24AM

    @naji ullah shah:
    Keep your agenda of hatred to yourself. You were telling first that upper punjab is looting you and you dont even know that Mianwali is in Upper Punjab. Also i never saw any hatred in Punjab so what are you talking about? I never felt i am a slave of anyone.
    Also if Punjabis are looting Niazis as you said then why so many of us live in Rawalpindi and Lahore. Nobody is looting us. We are culturally Punjabis. We can roam freely in Punjab but i never see any prejudice. There are more Niazis in Lahore than on any other place and they are not hated and they call themselves as Lahoris and Punjabi Pathans.
    Also i think people of Mianwali will be the most stupid if they choose Multan as a capital which is 377km away as Mianwali is in North and Multan is is in South. The people of Multan should support creation of North punjab province or potohar province as Rawalpindi is the closest biggest city near Mianwali and administratively it would be a wise division. Rawalpindi is only 200km.
    Also one more thing that no one is my money. My enemy is ignorance and lack of education.

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  • Rehman
    Apr 15, 2012 - 6:04AM

    How much sad it is that there is no party to talk about Punjabis. PPP talks about Sindhis ,mqm talk about Urdu speakers, anp talks about Pakhtoons. Now ppp talks about Seraikis and sadly there is no party who can represent Punjabis in Pakistan and in assembly and Punjabis are still sleeping for so called patriorism that is now hurting their sentiments and now all parties are united to end their identity and recognition from Pakistan.

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  • imposter
    Apr 15, 2012 - 6:10AM

    Zardari is gaining a lot of respect from me.Recommend

  • enlighten moderate
    Apr 15, 2012 - 7:38AM

    New Province named “South Punjab” with “Multan” as its capital must be made . It must include all areas of southern Punjab which are far away from its capital ‘Lahore’. Likewise it can also include some cities of northern Sindh (since their distance from their capital ‘Karachi’ is big).Please Make this new province for better administrative purpose only . If this goes ok( i am sure it will). This new province will be a model of peace/stability to other provinces that i can guarantee.

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  • Attif Abbas
    Apr 15, 2012 - 8:14AM

    PPP now realizing that they have been back to a interior sindh party, so best bet for them is to divide the pakistan on the basic of languages as tribal and bradari division won’t give them any more weigh and religious division looks funny with Bilawal with a turbine and beard.

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  • Khwaja Salman
    Apr 15, 2012 - 10:38AM

    @Attif Abbas:

    Your comments seem senseless. And shows you never visited seariki area.
    In seariki area there a number of baloch(mostly DG Kha, Leya, ), pakhtoon (muzafar garh and mianali) and sindh( RYK, BWP and multan) based tribes. They speak more then 1 language.And they all are agree upon common seariki identity.

    If they dont have objection on seariki province they anybody else should not have any objection.
    Seariki area is not language specific. They speak Balochi, Punjabi, Sindhi and seariki even Pushto. And ALHAMDULLAh no ethnic clash has been seen for past 60 years.

    In fact Urdu speaking peoples (of seariki area) are among main supporters of new province.

    I would personally like not to have name “Seariki Province” as name of province. “Multan ” Province would be best name.

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  • roma
    Apr 15, 2012 - 7:14PM

    @Attif Abbas: – ah ? hahahahhqa – well – said Sir !!

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  • Apr 16, 2012 - 3:39AM

    People of Hazara strongly condemned Pakistan People Party’s Taj Haider’s research paper in which he is favoring the creation of Saraiki province but says NO TO SUBA HAZARA .
    We would strongly disagree with his statement that people want Suba Hazara on the basis of language and ethnicity. People of Hazara love Pakistan and they are sensible people they want Suba Hazara on the basis of Political, economic, social, geographical &administrative needs and for the educational , economic empowerment of the future generations of Hazara. Any demand for Suba Hazara on the basis of prejudice, hatred, linguistic, race and ethnicity will be a failure and we will not like be part of it.
    We will request Mr. Taj Haider to visit Hazara before he publishes his research paper it’s very easy to conduct the research sitting in Karachi using the internet. Come to Hazara and talk to common people you will be surprised to know how badly people want a Suba Hazara.

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  • asif
    Apr 16, 2012 - 6:03PM

    Ethnic Politics !!!!Recommend

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