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Mission ‘lost cause’: The tale of a Kashmiri ‘jihadi’
Omer migrated to AJK in the 90s with hopes of returning as a ‘freedom fighter’.
Omer migrated to AJK in the 90s with hopes of returning as a ‘freedom fighter’.
MUZAFFARABAD:
In the mid 1990s, the Line of Control (LoC), the de facto border between Pakistan and India, was relatively porous, with many migrating from Srinagar (Indian-Kashmir) into Azad Kashmir. Some arrived in pursuit of a better life and others with hopes to win back Kashmir.
“I was around 18 years old when I decided I had enough. I had hoped that Pakistan, being a Muslim country, will help us win back Kashmir, but I was wrong,” said Omer, refusing to give his last name.
Omer’s exploits nearly two decades ago landed him with fighters who were training anyone and everyone for Jihad in Kashmir during the 90s.
“I was contacted by them, and they took me to Afghanistan, where I was trained in guerilla warfare for two years,” said Omer.
However, his stint as a Jihadi wouldn’t last too long. Eager to put his newly acquired skills to use, Omer crossed over with a group of fellow ‘freedom fighters’ into Indian-Kashmir.
“We were moving cautiously through the woods and hills when I stepped on a landmine which exploded,” he recalled.
The ill-fated night would constitute his first and last day on the battlefield. Omer injured his foot in the blast and was told by fellow ‘freedom fighters’ to return to the other side of LoC on his own since it was a general protocol for any injured combatants.
“I bandaged my foot, whatever was remaining of it, with a piece of cloth, as it was bleeding profusely. But God gave me the strength and I started to crawl back to this side again,” Omer said. A day later, miraculously, Omer reached the other side of LoC and was taken to a local hospital to be treated for his injuries. Even though doctors saved his life, they weren’t able to salvage his leg. He now wears a prosthetic leg.
Nearly two decades later, Omer is happily married with two children and is living on the outskirts of Muzaffarabad – AJK’s capital. However, even though Omer claims to have severed his ties with militant groups, he still believes that an armed resistance is the only way to win back his homeland.
“That is the only way we can have the world’s attention diverted towards us,” Omer said, adding that he and many other have been let down by the AJK and Pakistani governments as they have softened their stance on the Kashmir dispute over the years.
Speaking about the frequent talks between India and Pakistan, Omer said that even though the two countries have improved ties, they have not done so much for Kashmir’s inhabitants.
“There are these confidence building measures in which trade, travel and entertainment industry exchanges are taking place, but no one is resolving the Kashmir conflict even though everyday there are human rights violation by Indian authorities there.”
Published in The Express Tribune, February 5th, 2012.
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The poor guy was exploited by mullahs who live in large cities and whose children live abroad
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“I was contacted by them, and they took me to Afghanistan, where I was trained in guerilla warfare for two years,” said Omer. – Does anyone need to say anything more what Pakistan is actually doing??
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@Indian:
Did you read the rest of the article?Recommend
Your homeland is not kashmir. kashmir is a Hindu land. You are happy in Muzaffarabad. You should ask your other Muslim brothers to move to Pakistan and live happily. Leave our Hindu land and go to your Muslim land!!! Sorry, we can only be blunt here.
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@narayana murthy: well said,enough concessions have been made.not only india but the entire world has lost patience with jihadis in chechenya,xingjiang,kashmir etc.keep fulfilling their wish for paradise.
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Dear Omar, your services are more required in Baluchistan than Kashmir and you get a lot of support there. Lot of Baluchis are killed everyday, there is no government to protect them whereas in Kashmir there is a responsible government, judiciary, media.
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The whole subcontinent Ie entire south asia belongs to hindus (sikhs, jains, buddhists). Everybody esle should be kicked out back to arabia.
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Kashmir was unjustly handed to India against the wishes of it’s majority who remain unhappy with Indian rule. The issue is a stalemate between the two countries Pakistan and India and has proved impossible to resolve by force.
Let the Kashmiri decide his own future.
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@faraz
Fighting for your country against occupational forces is a birth right and responsibility. Nothing mulla here.
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Dont reveal the fact that Pakistan trains and sends armed people in to Indian Kashmie…the world will know it and our case will be weaker…make a face as if we know nothing likw we did when NATO accused us of supporting Talibans
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@SalSal
Jihad is sanctioned by the state, and armies fight in the battle field. If the states decide on a ceasefire, according to Islam, it’s binding on every citizen. Private jihadi groups only exploit people; its just a business.
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Our policy in supporting freedom fighters in kashmir should be much more aggressive. Shame on our corrupt leaders who sit silently while our kashmiri brothers are oppressed by savages.
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@Dr Imran Ahmed:
In the very same voice you can also say – ‘Let baluchis decide their own future now that they see Pakistan as an external force on their land…’
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@narayana murthy:
Never read about a “Hindu Land”, or “Christian Land”, or “Jew Land”, or “Muslim Land” in history. And what about “Atheists Land”? The fact is, countries are created according to the wishes of the people living there. What about USA, Canada, Australia, Newzealand, or South Africa? I am sure most Indians would love to abandon their “Hindu Land” if given immigration of these Christian occupied lands.
Here is the world’s biggest democracy (hypocrisy), who is afraid of its people and run from a democratic process of self determination.
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@Kashmiri Chilgoza:
“The whole subcontinent Ie entire south asia belongs to hindus (sikhs, jains, buddhists). Everybody esle should be kicked out back to arabia.”
Most people living in Pakistan (Muslims, Christians, Hindus etc.), I guess 99.9%, are the natives of the Indian subcontinent. Which Arabian country you would kick us to? And most importantly, where you would kick your Hindu Barahmans (Aryans) to?
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@Truth Seeker:
“I am sure most Indians would love to abandon their “Hindu Land” if given immigration of these Christian occupied lands. “
No, they never did and they never would. They go where their talents are requested and paid for. Legions of them are returning, too.
“Here is the world’s biggest democracy (hypocrisy), who is afraid of its people and run from a democratic process of self determination.”
We are not afraid of any exercises of self-determination. Self-determination by Kashmiris was exercised in 1947 and and then has been attested to and confirmed since then at every election. India will not go through that exercise merely because some people somehow are not happy. What country in the world exercises self-determination after it has been exercised? If some people are not happy, best course is to immigrate!
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@Indian:
“In the very same voice you can also say – ‘Let baluchis decide their own future now that they see Pakistan as an external force on their land…’”
By all means. If the Indian Government agree to hold plebiscite in Kashmir under the United Nations, we have no problem doing the same in Baluchistan. Only this time your conspiracy will fail – in-spite of your best not so clandestine operations – as this would a democratic exercise, not a military aggression.
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@G. Din:
“We are not afraid of any exercises of self-determination. Self-determination by Kashmiris was exercised in 1947”
A blatent lie, at the least. When did that happen? Any exact date? Who suppervised this exercise?
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@G. Din:
“and then has been attested to and confirmed since then at every election. India will not go through that exercise merely because some people somehow are not happy”
And to motivate them to attest to and control “some” unhappy citizens, India needs only 700,000 strong military personnel (world’s 3rd largest) in Kashmir only. And, not to mention billions upon billions of dollars of lethal military hardware imported to suppress any such aspirations of self rule.
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@Kashmiri Chilgoza:
“The whole subcontinent Ie entire south asia belongs to hindus (sikhs, jains, buddhists)”
When did the Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists become part of the Hindus. You should read history what the Hindus did to the Buddhists to make them flee for life from subcontinent (their motherland). And, what you did to Sikhs in the recent past and what are you doing with Muslims and Christians currently.
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@G. Din:
“What country in the world exercises self-determination after it has been exercised? If some people are not happy, best course is to immigrate!”
Ever you heard of South Sudan and East Timor? According to your logic these guys should have immigrated, possibly to India”.
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@Truth Seeker:
When did the Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists become part of the Hindus. You should read history what the Hindus did to the Buddhists to make them flee for life from subcontinent (their motherland). And, what you did to Sikhs in the recent past and what are you doing with Muslims and Christians currently.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HINDUISM ,BUDHISM AND JAINISM . I AM JAIN .DON’T TEACH ME ABOUT JAINISM,HINDUISM AND BUDDHISM .WE FALLOWER OF DHARMA.OUR 80 % PHILOSOPHY IS SAME .AND YA HINDUISM(SANATAN DHARMA) IS MOTHER OF JAINISM AND BUDDHISM.WHO YOU TOLD BUDDHIST FLEW TO INDIA .BUDDHISM AND JAINISM IS FALLOWED BY MANY PART OF INDIA TILL MUSLIM NOT ATTACK INDIA .TO SAVE DHARMA WE ARE UNITED ANY MOSTLY BUDDHIST AND AND SOME JAIN BECOME FALLOWER OF HINDUISM .YOU KNOW WHO DESTROY MAHAVIR STATUE, SOMNATH MANDIR, BUDDHIST AND ASHOK STUP IN INDIA .PLEASE SEARCH .AND YA SIKH RIOTS DONE BY CONGRESSI . HINDU,SIKH,BUDDHIST AND JAIN INTERMARRIAGE IS MOST COMMON IN INDIA .JAIN, HINDU AND SIKH MARRIAGE OTHER RELIGION IS MOST RARE IN INDIA UNLIKE SOME BOLLYWOOD STAR..AND YA BUDDHISM IS FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN INDIA.. AND YOU SEE 50-60% HINDUS HOME GAUTAM BUDDHA STATUE.AND AND MANY HINDU FALLOW BOTH RELIGION. YA WE(JAINISM,HINDUISM ,BUDDHISM ,SIKHISM) FLLOWER OF DHARMA OUR GOAL IS ONE.(Dharmo rakshati rakshitah).THATS Y WE SAVE DHARMA LAST 5000 YEARS.Recommend
the best option for us & them is to cut all ties with them. tell them our brethren can’t have peaceful life what is useful for us to have diplomatic relations.
this way we can win back kashmiri aspiration & the same time show the indians that kashmir pakistan is closed road for them to venture.
If they want to resolve the dispute the heart of kashmir lies in pakistan. too many suffering yet have diplomatic ties. what use if this country does not recognize pakistan kashmir to have diplomatic ties.
the government is corrupt, they foreign policy that backfires. we have to solve our internal problems before we can create strongest foreign policy.
why do we have misconception that india will want to resolve, when they keep militarized the disputed state.
shame on indians gilgit have forgotten hindu rule, indians think they can impose hindu rule on muslim lands. this is not maurya century or gulab singhs century. that is why india lost this war.
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We are fighting over land, as if we (both Pakistan & India) have so intelligently used the land resources we already have :-p Pakistan’s concern about the water resources in genuine & so is India’s concern about militants. If better sense prevailed, they’d both get into a dialogue & come up with a amicable solution.Recommend
@Roflcopter: May b u shud go instead of advicing others.Recommend
@Dr Imran Ahmed:
why not the balochs be allowed to decide their own future? if you do not integrate with the rest of the country hoping that being hindus they will discriminate against you, it’s your fault.
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@Truth Seeker:
YES we brahmins(aryans) came from central asia i.e. TURKEY, PERSIA, UZBEKISTAN. now we want to come back . are muslims ready to vacate those lands?
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@amit:
“TO SAVE DHARMA WE ARE UNITED ANY MOSTLY BUDDHIST AND AND SOME JAIN BECOME FALLOWER OF HINDUISM.”
What a pathetic and desperate rhetoric to defend the un-defendable act of forced conversions – which is still going on mainly in rural India with the weaker minorities like Christians and Muslims – a fact preserved in human history.
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@sylmarkhan:
“shame on indians gilgit have forgotten hindu rule, indians think they can impose hindu rule on muslim lands. this is not maurya century or gulab singhs century. that is why india lost this war.”
As a fair minded and intellectually honest guy, would you also agree that it was a shame that Islamic invaders imposed Muslim rule on Hindu lands for a period of 800+ years?
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Kashmir issue shall be resolve in light of UN resolution.
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@Indian trolls…..
We Pakistani people will continue to support kashmiri struggle in every possible way….against 700,000 strong Indian force…..
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@manish:
“YES we brahmins(aryans) came from central asia i.e. TURKEY, PERSIA, UZBEKISTAN. now we want to come back.”
My recommendation to you is to check with the embassy of the relevant country i.e. “TURKEY, PERSIA, UZBEKISTAN” along with your proof of origin. And, please inform me the outcome, please.
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@Observer:
“As a fair minded and intellectually honest guy, would you also agree that it was a shame that Islamic invaders imposed Muslim rule on Hindu lands for a period of 800+ years?”
I wish the world had been as civilized 2000 years ago as it is today (no so civilized, yet better), but back then these were the rules of the game. People still revere those great conquerors like Alexander the Great. The same was happening within the Indian subcontinent between the rival princely states and fiefdoms, but the only difference was their limited courage to reach beyond the subcontinent.
To me, it is more shameful to keep insisting on applying the same uncivilized rules in this modern world.
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@Truth Seeker:
No native Indians were christians or muslims. So, what are you talking about?
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@Truth Seeker:
Maybe you guys understand the same and stop blurting things like gazwa e hind and islam rule all over the world and let secular societies be secular…
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@Truth Seeker:
“What a pathetic and desperate rhetoric to defend the un-defendable act of forced conversions – which is still going on mainly in rural India with the weaker minorities like Christians and Muslims – a fact preserved in human history.”
First requirement to be a truth seeker is to know the farce in the information being fed to you. It is the poor Hindus in rural India who are being converted to Christianity out of lure of a economically better life. And Muslims in India have never converted to any other religion let alone Hinduism in a mass (an occasional incident here and there might be there but that is an exception to the general rule and not the rule in itself). So, please get your facts right or else stop spreading lies or misinformation… Speak the truth Mr.Truth Seeker!! By the way i hope you read of the conversions of Hindus to Islam in Pakistan. Do the ‘Truth Seeking’ why??
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@Yuri Kondratyuk:
“No native Indians were christians or muslims. So, what are you talking about?”
Playing dumb will not help. I am off course talking about the “forced” conversion, persecution and even killing of Buddhists and Jains in the past, and Muslims and Christians in the recent times by Hindu extremists. By the way, human race did not came into existence with Hinduism as their religion.
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@Indian:
“islam rule all over the world and let secular societies be secular”
Personally, I agree with you that State should be “truly” Secular, not the pseudo secular like India, and the religion should be a private matter.However, every body should have the right to practice and propagate their beliefs as long as the means are peaceful and does not cultivate hate mongering. This was also the vision of our founding father, Mohammad Ali Jinnah, as outlined in his speech to the constituent assembly.
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poetic justice.wanted to murder hindus and lost his leg to a land-mine. Lay a trap for somebody and you fall into it.Recommend
@Indian:
“It is the poor Hindus in rural India who are being converted to Christianity out of lure of a economically better life.”
Even though poor Hindus were lured to Christianity; whose fault is this in the first place?; it was being done peacefully and lawfully. My point is, what Hindus did in retaliation?. Burnt their Churches, threatened to their life and property – by the way, the same was done to Muslims also on innumerable occasions – all the acts of force and vandalism instead of peaceful preaching. Should I also mention what have you done to Sikhs in the recent past (photographic proofs of which are hanging in the hall of a Sikh temple on highway 27 in Toronto, Canada).
“By the way i hope you read of the conversions of Hindus to Islam in Pakistan”
I guess this is same as in India, but be assured that any incidence of force is an exception not the rule.
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@Truth Seeker:
‘My point is, what Hindus did in retaliation?’ – Oh!! You mean Muslims in Pakistan have peacefully converted the 15% minority into Islam!!!
‘Should I also mention what have you done to Sikhs in the recent past’ – What amuses me is a Pakistani raising concerns of a community a member of whom is now the Prime Minister of India… Shred the hypocrisy and get to reality… Pakistan today is a Theology based society which has utter disregard to any thing which is not Islamic to an extent that people from all over the world end up in the madrasas over there learning how to hate….
‘any incidence of force is an exception not the rule.’ – That applies for India… Do read about the history and population of the minorities in Pakistan. I would be very happy to know that it actually is Secular but i would then be deluded…. I am a regular follower of the so called talk shows on Pakistani channels and very keenly observe how the audience respond to comments on secularism. Unfortunately the very word ‘Secularism’ somehow seems to tell them that it is not ‘Islamic’.. You can continue making an argument and i am here to give a reply but calling a spade as a spade is the way you will learn to fight internal denials…Recommend
@Truth Seeker:
Mr. Truth Seeker behold more truth -
At the time of Partition in 1947, the Hindu population of Pakistan was estimated at approximately a quarter of the total population. For example, the population of Karachi, Pakistan in 1947 was 450,000, of which 51% was Hindu, and 42% was Muslim.
In 1951, the Muslim population of Karachi was 96% and the Hindu population was 2% and in 1998, the Hindu population in all of Pakistan was 1.6%.
In 1998 (14 years ago!!!) Hindu population was 1.6%… God only knows if any Hindus are left in Pakistan right now as you give me this talk!!! This information is from Pakistan’s own census….. ‘Truth’ as it is!!!!
Now come to India – 9.9% in 1950 to 13.4% in 2010 census…. I am waiting for you to speak now………Recommend
I will give honest answer. but also like to show you the future. First of all you say muslim invaders came to india to impose their rule. Indian empires did the same thing before muslim & western empires invaded india. indian empires spread bhudism hindusim in south asia south east asia. while muslim invaders brought changes to south asia & south east asia. While india remained hindu while regions where hindusim failed islam prospered. So to claim india by conversion will not work. what i am saying is that. neither india can change the world in her view nor salman rushdie. india could only receive prosperity where her judgement was good not where her judgement was bad. Did pakistani empires ever invaded india. never, we just wanted rightful independent from india. we were honest with india when we made partion. india thinks it can do what it likes so did the ruler of kashmir. if bengal punjab could merge with india with minority. why could kashmir majority could not merge. India not only was not honest but became worst enemy. Indian’s should wakeup and see why pakistan kashmir wanted independent more than merge with india. india’s foreign policy that rules kashmir pakistan should be eye opener for everyone why there was no united british india. my second point tells horror tale of afghanistan and india who made life miserable for new nation of pakistan. Afghanistan india are in a turmoil because of their own fault not because it is fault of pakistan. Pakistan did help afghans in war. Pakistan helped kashmiris in need. the afghan refugees residing in pakistan because of uncertainty in afghanistan. Kashmiri refugees are also facing the same fate in pakistan because of uncertainty in occupied kashmir. Can these four regions ever live in peace? people immigrate to a place they see as their hopeful future from stark reality they used to live in. Afghanistan india bangladesh have proven that they have no place for refugees. how can people from these countries live like refugees in pakistan. there is attraction pakistan receives from people who see their own countries with no future. afghanistan india bangladesh have failed her own people. while pakistan lived up to refugees, pakistan fought for afghans & kashmir. That is the reason why pakistan is in this mess. we will change our own fate but our neighbours will not change.@Observer:Recommend
three points to consider when you make this claim. one- indians could not win aspirations of muslim before independence. 2-indian meddling in kashmir while agreeing on partion double standard. 3- everyone was told of future independence. maybe you were not invited. some hindus migrated while others converted. you are complaining just like if we complain. like, in auranzeb rule why did india still remains hindu. simple reason majority regions succeeding in claiming independence[pakistan]. what about mauyra gupta dynasty made conversion. God is going to judge us all especially regarding religion.@Indian:
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@Indian:
“‘Should I also mention what have you done to Sikhs in the recent past’ – What amuses me is a Pakistani raising concerns of a community a member of whom is now the Prime Minister of India”
You forgot to mention the “(photographic proofs of which are hanging in the hall of a Sikh temple on highway 27 in Toronto, Canada)” part. I guess that hurts, hurts badly, and why not? Yes, any decent person, irrespective of his faith or nationality, will get hurt and raise concern after seeing a large number of large sized photographs of brutally tortured, mutilated dead bodies of Sikh youth; courtesy to the so called democratic, secular, shining India’s security forces.
Do I also need to refresh your memory of the massacre of 5,000 Sikhs by the Hindu hooligans in a single day in Delhi only; not in a very distant past. Or, of the desecration of the Golden Temple and killings there in by your security forces.
“Shred the hypocrisy and get to reality”
Yes, I say that, you don’t. Shred the hypocrisy and get to reality.
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@SalSal:
Fighting for your country against occupational forces is a birth right and responsibility. Nothing mulla here.
yes, but the ‘homeland’ of Jihadis is Arabia/Persia, NOT India/Indian subcontinent.
Why can’t the Jihadis go back to their real homeland and fight, kill, and do whatever they want?
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@Truth Seeker:
Ever you heard of South Sudan and East Timor?
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Ever heard about PAKISTAN? It was six decades before South Sudan. An artificial entity called Pakistan was created in NorthWest India for those who think they are not Indian and POPULATION EXCHANGE was carried out.
Pakistan should Invite and give immediate citizenship to anyone in India who think they are not Indian, and India should accept non-Muslims/Atheists/Apostates from Pakistan who want to immigrate. If you don’t agree, it is like denying very ideological basis of Pakistan.
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@Truth Seeker:
To me, it is more shameful to keep insisting on applying the same uncivilized rules in this modern world
again, you are challenging very existence of Pakistan!
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@Truth Seeker:
However, every body should have the right to practice and propagate their beliefs as long as the means are peaceful and does not cultivate hate mongering.
I appreciate, I also think the same. But pleeease let us start this from Arabia and Persia.
This was also the vision of our founding father, Mohammad Ali Jinnah,
What? what? what? :o
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@Truth Seeker:
God bless you!! You can’t get Alice out of the wonderland, then let her be in the wonderland and ask her at-least not to impose the wonderland to the world outside it…
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@let there be peace:
“let there be peace”
Really? By organising terrorisim in Baluchistan
“Pakistan should Invite and give immediate citizenship to anyone in India”
All you want is land (wealth) and don’t give a damn to your fellow denizens of different creed. Yes, we are not Indians; as to you Indian means Hindus. We take pride being Pakistani and are natives of the South Asian Subcontinent, the same land you (Hindus) claim is all yours and the rest of the others must leave.
So, the Muslims leave for Pakistan, Buddhist leave for China, Nexilites leave for Burma, and Sikhs leave for Indian Ocean.
Read your ex-foreign minister Mr. Natwar Singh’s book to enlighten yourself who compelled the Muslims to demand for a separate homeland.
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@let there be peace:
“again, you are challenging very existence of Pakistan!”
previous posts in this article should be sufficient to answer all your questions. Just read them again carefully. BTW, crystal meth is believed to be helpful in overcoming Attention Deficit Syndrome.Recommend
@Indian:
“God bless you!!”
My profound thanks.
“can’t get Alice out of the wonderland”
You need solid arguments based on real facts not fairy tales.
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@Truth Seeker:
One more thing do read the statements before as to who was factual and who is speaking in thin air..
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This Kashmir issue will only end when one of the two nations goes broke. I know who I would put my money on.
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@Indian:
“One more thing do read the statements before as to who was factual and who is speaking in thin air..”
I deliberately ignored your “factual statements” because these so obviously indicate your lack of the understanding of the subject.
“At the time of Partition in 1947, the Hindu population of Pakistan was estimated at approximately a quarter of the total population. For example, the population of Karachi, Pakistan in 1947 was 450,000, of which 51% was Hindu, and 42% was Muslim. In 1951, the Muslim population of Karachi was 96% and the Hindu population was 2% and in 1998, the Hindu population in all of Pakistan was 1.6%. In 1998 (14 years ago!!!) Hindu population was 1.6%… God only knows if any Hindus are left in Pakistan right now as you give me this talk!!! This information is from Pakistan’s own census….. ‘Truth’ as it is!!!!
Now come to India – 9.9% in 1950 to 13.4% in 2010 census…. I am waiting for you to speak now”
Let’s start with “Now come to India – 9.9% in 1950 to 13.4% in 2010 census”. Nothing to take credit of rather a discredit. This merely corroborate the findings of a recent report published by an Indian commission on Human Rights that comparative to 1947 the economic condition of Muslims deteriorated while of the all the other communities’ ameliorated. The rule of thumb is, the more affluent you become the lesser you procreate, and vice versa.
Now come to first part. How can you ignore the impact of history’s biggest migration that took place during the independence. Tens of millions of people crossed borders from both sides. Most Hindus moved to India while Muslims migrated to Pakistan and this cross movement continued till late 50′s albeit slowly. Now, what a silly comparison of 1998 percentages with that of 1947. However, the comparison of 1950 figures with the current numbers makes sense (the same you did while comparing Indian data), but for unknown reasons, you chose to skip these numbers which relly mattered.
What I can tell you is that Hindus who stayed in Pakistan are doing very well as they were in 1947, one of the reasons they chose Pakistan over India.
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@Viper:
“This Kashmir issue will only end when one of the two nations goes broke. I know who I would put my money on.”
Like Afghans are the richest people on this planet and your old friend USSR and new friend USA are the poorest of the poor.
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@Truth Seeker:
Go on Alice!!!!!!!!
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this is world biggest democracy which cries day and night on plight of pakistani hindus look how they treat kashmiris 1.5 million refugees in pakistan and pakistan government and establishment is too busy cosing it up with the west i liked hamid gul
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@akbar mohiddin:
yes he could work in coal mine in balochistan
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@narayana murthy: If India wants to rule on Kashmir , then they first have to rule the heart of Kashmiris.
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