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NATO attack: Suspend supply lines, vacate Shamsi air base in 15 days, DCC decides
Cabinet's defence committee takes decision in accordance with Parliament's resolution of May 14, 2011.
Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani chairing a meeting of the Defence Committee of the Cabinet at the Prime Minister House in Islamabad on Saturday. PHOTO: PID
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has decided to close the logistics supply line to NATO/ISAF forces stationed in Afghanistan with immediate effect, and to ask United States to vacate Shamsi air base within 15 days following the early morning raid by NATO forces on a Pakistani border checkpost on Saturday.
The decision was taken in an emergency meeting of the Defence Committee of the Cabinet, chaired by Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani. The meeting was attended by Federal Ministers, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, Services Chiefs including General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.
The meeting, which took decisions in light of the Parliament resolution of May 14, 2011 (after the US raid on Abbottabad) decided that land supply route of NATO/ISAF supplies through Pakistan will be suspended, while US forces stationed at Shamsi air base in Balochistan will be asked to leave. The meeting further resolved that that the Pakistani people and the armed forces would safeguard the Pakistan’s sovereignty at all costs.
The Prime Minister will take the Parliament into confidence on the whole range of measures regarding matters relating to Pakistan’s future cooperation with US/NATO/ISAF, in the near future.
The DCC strongly condemned the attack by NATO/ISAF aircrafts on Pakistani border posts in the Mohmand Agency which had resulted in the deaths of 24 security personnel and injuring 12 soldiers of the Pakistan Army.
Balochistan bans entry of NATO/ISAF supply trucks
Mimicing a move by the federal government, the government of Balochistan has banned the entry and exit of containers bearing fuel and other supplies for Afghanistan based ISAF and NATO troops
Chief Minister, Nawab Mohammad Aslam Raisani, has issued an order asking district authorities at Lasbela and Jaffarabad to bar NATO oil tankers and containers from entering Balochistan with immediate effect.
According to a statement issued here on Saturday night, it said that the bar was in reaction to the NATO air strikes on the Pakistani border posts in Mohmand Agency.
Containers and oil tankers carrying fuel and military hardware were stopped near Chaman, a township that shares Paksitan’s border with Afghanistan. Border security forces did not allow the Afghanistan bound trucks to cross the border.
Another convoy of NATO oil tankers and containers was on its way to Chaman from Dasht area was stopped near Akhtarabad, a suburb of Quetta. The convoy was escorted by Balochistan Levies and security forces.
Long queue was seen in Chaman and Akhtarabad as they were not allowed to proceed further.
On average 200 NATO containers and oil tanker cross Chaman border everyday. “We were asked to hold NATO containers and oil tankers,” a senior official said, adding that foolproof security was being provided to NATO trucks in order to thwart any attack from hostile elements.
NATO suppliers are escorted by personnel of Levies and security forces since they are often targeted by armed groups in Balochistan.
Top echelon condemn ‘unacceptable’ checkpost attack
Earlier, the attacks had drawn a strong reaction from Pakistan with NATO supplies being halted, the US Ambassador to Pakistan being summoned and condemnations from the highest offices in Pakistani government.
Pakistani president Asif Ali Zardari, Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani, and the army chief, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani all condemned the attack, terming it “unacceptable”.
President’s spokesperson, Farhatullah Babar said that the President had called the attack by NATO/ISAF helicopters, resulting in loss of precious lives of Pakistani soldiers, as unacceptable. President Zardari said a strong protest had also been registered with NATO and ISAF over the incident and they have been asked to take urgent action against those responsible for this aggression.
The powerful Chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, directed in a statement issued by the Pakistani military that “all necessary steps be under taken for an effective response to this irresponsible act.
“A strong protest has been launched with NATO/ISAF in which it has been demanded that strong and urgent action be taken against those responsible for this aggression,” the statement continued.
Gilani had summoned Cabinet’s Defence Committee for a meeting which is currently underway at the PM house.
Protests lodged with US, NATO/ISAF
Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir on Saturday called in US Ambassador Cameron Munter to lodge a strong protest on the unprovoked NATO/ISAF attack.
The Foreign Secretary conveyed to the US Ambassador that the unprovoked attack by NATO/ISAF had deeply incensed the Government and the people of Pakistan, according to a press statement issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
“The President, the Prime Minister and the Government of Pakistan strongly condemn the attacks which were totally unacceptable, constituted a grave infringement of Pakistan’s sovereignty, were violative of international law and a serious transgression of the oft conveyed red lines and could have serious repercussions on Pakistan-US/NATO/ISAF cooperation”, the statement read.
The Ambassador was informed that the Prime Minister had convened an emergency meeting of the Defence Committee of the Cabinet to evaluate the situation arising from these uncalled for attacks by NATO/ISAF forces.
Strong protests have also been lodged in Washington and at the NATO Headquarters in Brussels, the statement added. As reported earlier, Pakistani Embassy in Washington had lodged a verbal complaint with the State Department.
The US embassy in Islamabad had offered condolences.
NATO supplies halted for ‘security reasons’
NATO supply trucks and fuel tankers bound for Afghanistan were stopped at the town of Jamrud in Khyber tribal region near the city of Peshawar hours after the raid, officials said.
One official though said that the supply route had been shut for security reasons.
“There is possibility of attacks on NATO supplies passing through the volatile Khyber tribal region, therefore we sent them back towards Peshawar to remain safe,” he said.
The border crossing at Chaman in Balochistan was also closed, Frontier Corps officials said.
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We must get rid off from the US and its allied forces to take out Pakistan from its present mess.
Once we are out of the clutches of US, Pakistan will be put on a different track which will take the country and the nation towards the real progress.
For God’s sake, leave America and be a Pakistani. This the only way to save our motherland i.e. Pakistan.
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
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28 soldiers killed in cold blood and our leadership just do their usual condemnation?
What we want is a retaliatory strikes on their bases. enough is enough
end the co-operation with NATO and seal the entire border. place manpads always armed.
massive downsize the US embassy.
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Play hard or play as a ball
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there is no use to keep co-operating with NATO/ISAF.
They will keep violating Pakistan’s sovereignty and keep dropping bombs on “suspected” militants and now military personnel who are fighting the same militants.
If this was any other country, whose soldiers were killed like that. It would have been an automatic declaration of state of war
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Pakistani leaders (both civilian and military) need to grow a pair of cojones.
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‘The powerful Chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, directed in a statement issued by the Pakistani military that “all necessary steps be under taken for an effective response to this irresponsible act’.
Let’s see how powerful in a few days time.
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Just calling it unacceptable will not do it. Time for nation to rise up and defend the country. Where are the swedish AWACS and JF17 which were bought from the blood of the nation. Shame on the establishment who cannot defend our brave soldiers. Recommend
All the comments following will say cut the supply line. OK. What next can Pak do therafter that direct strikes have started?
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This is USA leading NATO from behind like in libya…so watch out Pakistanis…!!!Recommend
“There is possibility of attacks on NATO supplies passing through the volatile Khyber tribal region, therefore we sent them back towards Peshawar to remain safe,” he said.
Well done Pak to save the supplies.
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Unfortunately, this is all we can do right now.
It’s not about having guts…our economy would crumble if we decided to take on NATO (majority of our exports are to the USA).Recommend
lol..again just condemn..we are the most beygharat nation of the world i have no doubt in it
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Zardari and Gillani sahab, condemning wont work, try cordoning off the borders as you said in your oath. Recommend
We musk ask ISAF to handover those responsible for this attack to Pakistan authorities to try them.
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We know are brave leadership all too well. This change of heart is not out of sincerity to Pakistan or the Armed forces. It is either the growing clout of Imran Khan that they wish to counteract or just the recipe for appeasing the already threatening army distraught by the Memogate scandal.
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Does the pak establishment have the guts to do anything now? The check posts were there to allow militants to go in from pakistan and Nato spotted it and destroyed it. Hail NATO!Recommend
I think Kiyani and Pasha should be quite worried now and will take an immediate action as of the one in which they sake hussain haqqani as ambassador. Let’s us see how our brilliant Army responds to this, and it will be a real test!
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The biggest issue with Pakistan is its economy, stability and it is dependent on US. your leaders should work towards making Pakistan stable and then break every tie with US. but then question is how Pakistan going to handle India without US support because china is not US who will give aid like US($3bn a year). well solution to this is stop having anti-India policy.
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Gilani & Kiyani keep protesting…is there anything else that can be done?Recommend
Thank you. By closing the supply line Pakistan has eliminated the last reason for the USA to pretend Pakistan is an ally. Now we can treat Pakistan as the enemy it is.
This will be very popular in America.
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This drama is just for few days. After sometime everything will be normal and NATO will continue drone strikes later..
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You may find out what life is like standing on your own —- I urge all the Pakistan internet warriors to sign off your computers and run down to the nearest military recruitment office — time to put your money where your mouth is.
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For Gods sake do something now. The time is right and the opportunity is there..Recommend
Bluff!
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How about investigation of this repeat security failure?
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now that’s what we have been talking about, show some dignity people, at least they did after this tragic incident
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@Nobel:
We do not want US money. Its Congress from Washington who says give Pakistan aid. We do not want your money.
First save your face in Afghanistan, and than talk about Pakistan.
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Shamsi airbase closing..hmm..the drone attackes were being done with the consent of the govt…shame on them.
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ET reporter in its lead video says it was the result of a miscommunication. Yeah right!
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Pakistani Government must not allow hot pursuit of NATO forces into Pakistani territory. No drone attacks either. In case of violation shot down their planes.
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Shame on the leaders, as they have once again come up with stereotype declarations having no tangible effect on those who have intentionally targetted our beloved soldiers.Wake up n retaliate in tangible terms not with lip service n these useless declarations wouldn’t effect them.Recommend
A lot more can be done. Declare US ambassador persona non grata. But then we are not a self respecting nation. We are just slaves.
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extremely tame response. shame on our civil and military leadership…. atleast shabaz air base should also have been vacated … just a suspension of nato supplies is not acceptable ….supplies should be permanently cut….might make nato depart sooner…also where was our air force ??
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We want them to apologize(Atleast)…
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This is a deliberate act of war, and should be taken as such. there is no need to equivocate,obfiscate,confuse or just shrug shoulders.
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@Nand:
We will retaliate. Let it be the doom of us, have iman on Allah the provider, the sustainer.
remember these mottos
Death before Disgrace, Life of one day as lion is better than donkey’s 1000 years
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This is all talk, no action plan , for the local audience !!! Get the Ghairat brigade out on streets for few days of flag burning!! as the west and US has got used to this protests!!
The fact of the matter is that, why did NATO Personal actually attack Pakistani troops on border post?? It was’nt was fun, there is more to this story than is being told at present.
This will all be forgotten in few days time !!
Pakistan simply can not afford to take on anyone at present and certainly not their Paymasters !!!!
The concern for Pakistan should be that, NATO/ ISAF may have decided to change their strategy and not only prevent cross border infiltrations but to go after them to terminate them across the border !!!Recommend
The question is will Pakistan arm force will has the open hand to open fire on the nato helicopters in case it happens again after 4 -5 months ?
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This is not first time we are witnessing Pakistani solders and security officers have been killed by drones or by NATO tropes inside Pakistan. One thing Pakistani people don’t understand is the value of there blood. No one cares how many Pakistani people going to die, because Pakistani’s don’t value their own life, hundreds and thousands of people in Pakistan being killed every day on the name of religion, on the name of honor, name of politics, and so on. We should be happy that NATO is making our job easy.
If we don’t stand up, protect each other, respect each other, and value the humanity, then no one will do these for us,
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So is any khaki resigning?
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@Umair waheed seikh: 24 soldies killed @ u r still living in fools paradise. If u r a pakistani shame on u.
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This is not enough. The families of 24 soldiers are mourning for no reason. Joining the forces doesn’t mean that the soldiers can be killed by anyone, anywhere.
Time to say bye-bye to USA. The war-against terrorism should be fought by BRICP Brazil, Russia, India, China and Pakistan. Not a single country having a record of violations of human rights and territorial integrity.
The UN resolution shall be torn down and Pakistan shall withdraw all its troops from the UN missions.
If our soldiers are not safe, why shall we die defending other nations, on the basis of mechanized UN resolutions.
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If Mike Mullen had taken the offer allegedly made by Haqqani seriously, we would not have lost precious lives. wake up Pakistan and change your present policies which are leading us nowhere except downhill.
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Well i think a strong strike must be taken as reply from Pakisan Army to this shameful act, and Pakistan must declare “state of war against NATO/ISAF”, and TTP is already looking for a chance/support to destroy NATO as much as they can, so this can be the ideal situation to finish them n make Afghanistan their graveyard like Russia…sorry for being so emotional but I think this is the only thing they deserve.Recommend
How many times will they the ask the U.S. to vaccate the base. I thought we had asked them to vaccate the base after May 1 attack
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The most beghirat of the year…..iraq, afghanistan or pakistan…..and the oscar goes to PAKISTAN.
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AnExiously waiting for a strong-strike-back from Pakistan Army n a massive destruction of NATO/ISAF.
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No. As a mature nation (?) we should suspend supplies pending an investigation. If that proves NATO culpability, THEN take the next step and anything after that. The entire nation will support you.
Is it so difficult to be mature?
And won’t we look like idiots if it transpires that we fired on NATO gunships (for whatever reason and even in error) while they were still in Af. airspace?
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More Pakistani blood but nothing will happen. Believe me it will happen again and nothing will be done until the country is destroyed.
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USA should suspend all economic and military assistance and impose crippling economic sanctions. India should reject any effort by Pak to give MFN status to India. Any engagement is damaging.
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Finally after lot of denials, our “beigharat” politicians and top military brass has accepted that US is using Shamsi airbase. Soon they will allow NATO supplies to pass through Pakistan. Everything will be settled under the “friendly fire” and “apologies”.
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The NATO helicopters cowardly attack on two Pakistani check posts,resulting in martyring 28 Pakistani soldiers,apart from being highly uncalled for and condemnable is without any doubt a premeditated one.
The question’s which arise are that why and for what gains ?…Every thought out and planned action has to have a motivating factor and an anticipatory reaction…
What could be reason for this attack should be completely analyzed.Whether it was to let the Afghan terrorists to cross over, or was it a new understanding that check points on sensitive border should be shot to pieces making way for their hot pursuits on foot ?
Since this not the first time such a gory incident has occurred .The recent past is mindful of quite a few taking place earlier!…Mere condemnation and apology is insufficient to cover the cost of innocent human lives lost:( .
Pakistan should severe diplomatic ties with the US,forthwith until the publicly name the crew responsible for this murderous attack,resulting in taking 28 innocent lives and handover to the Pakistan Judiciary for a fair and transparent trial for the heinous crime they had committed!…
It must be borne in mind that Pakistan was neither at war with the US/NATO,when this uncalled for military attack was carried out.Secondly, while perpetrating this attack on Pakistani soldiers stationed on Pakistani, their killer helicopters were within the remits of Pakistan’s airspace.Thus,since the crime was committed on Pakistanis on their soil in violation of the international law and our law of the land it should be fair by all standards that they be tried here by our courts..
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Terming Pakistan as the ”epicenter” for global terrorism, the US military’s topmost official outgoing Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has said extremism cannot be defeated without eliminating the state sponsored safe havens in the country.
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The meeting further resolved that that the Pakistani people and the armed forces would safeguard the Pakistan’s sovereignty at all costs?? I don’t think so. The Pakis lost to India in 1972 and lost East Pakistan Forever! It’s only a matter of time before entire Pakistan will go up in smoke thanks to hatred that’s spewed from it’s belly against everything civilized. Hail NATO!
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highest level of protest
in strongest possible terms
thats all is said in written speeches.. shame on kiyani and gillani, not able to protect citizen.. in this case even soldiers..
keep protesting in stongest possible “words” .. they don’t give a damn..
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How many times can we have a vacated air base vacated. We should try something new to fool the public.
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one can only hope that all this sticks and isnt withdrawn in 48 hours as it usually is
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After all the sacrfices that the Pakistani military has made to defeat the Soviets and fight militants, NATO forces decides to bomb Pakistani soldiers? How short sighted and callous. It’s time for the Pakistani establishment to stand up for the nation. The Afghanis and their Indian masters are celebrating the deaths of our soldiers but I hope the Pak military stands up for the nation’s sovereignty finally. How many of the Pak miltiary must die before we put our nation’s interests first?
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@Maryam:
Are we daydreaming or living in a fool’s paradise? Kiyani, Pasha or our brilliant army is good to conquer Pakistan only not beyond that. The only solution for putting ourselves into a progressive, patriotic and stronger path is to respect others sovereignty and completely alienate from any support for our so-called ‘assets’. At the moment our military must abide by the constitution and follow civilian rule and Government must come-up with clean hands. We must make Pakistan very strong on economic front first and then think of any ‘panga’ with other countries.
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I agree we need to show that this act cannot be tolerated.
Nato should pay blood money to the victims families and offer its sincere apologies.
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@Mohammad Ali Siddiqui:
For “real progress” you will have to stop supporting terrorism – especially those “non-state actors” who are in cahoots with the state actors. Does Pakistan have the will to do it? There is way too much easy money in walking both sides of the road.
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Suspension of NATO supply routes, Shamsi airbase etc etc. Pakistan will reverse its decision within a week because Pakistan badly needs Coalition Support Fund.(blood money).
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I think Pakistan is a confused nation – it has nuclear weapons it does not know how to use and how not to use. Since it has them it is supposed to use them. I am sure Pakistanis wished they did not have nuclear weapons at all. It is a big burden on their necks from all points of view.
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We again salute to pakistan army and General Kayani….What else Pakistani Awam can do. Shame on us…claims that we have best army and Nuclear Power.
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@Maryam
Do you think our Establishment is going to respond? We know how they responded to Raymond Davis, Abbottabad Osama Raid. or the drones, Kayani & Pasha will just protest & condemn, and within 15 days everything`s back to usual business.
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Well our government in Pakistan only denies, denies, denies. So shocking it is to us that the rest of the world can actually admit to its mistakes. RIP to the innocent lives lost in this tragedy.
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Our Politicians and Establishment wont do anything. They children live, study, work in US & Europe. Imran Khan
s kids live in london, Kayani, Pasha, Gilani, Bhuttos, Altaf Bhai .. … .. … … … …. …. … … … …Why will anyone do anything? Also, most of Pakistan`s exports go to US & Europe and NOT CHINA. Pakistan gets most aid from US & Europe and not from China. China gives least amount of Aid to us.
We should think of the implications and control emotions.
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Aage aage dekhiye, hota hai kya! The real test begins.
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Really? So much bravado? How about the U.S/Nato cancel visas and green cards of all Pakistanis in U.S, recognize Balochistan as an independent state and start arming separatists, announce a blockade of Karachi, cut off all imports/exports from Pakistan? Then let’s see how long this heroism will last.
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What’s next? A strongly worded letter? In ALL UPPERCASE maybe?
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Why 15 Days? Are you playing with innocent minds of the nation who’ll forget this incident right away within a week with piling up incidents?
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Good goin PM!!!!!!!
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Hairaan says “We musk ask ISAF to handover those responsible for this attack to Pakistan authorities to try them.”
Good way to get a drone from the USA.
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more to be done !
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Gilani, Kiyani and Raisani long live. Good work team Pakistan.
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Shukar Pak Army Jaag Hotee now finally. Tell NATO to go home and don’t mess with us anymore. Results will be fatal.
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First of all I like that a civilian is heading that meeting and men in khaki are sitting at the sides where there true place is.
Secondly this is just stupid. We have been blocking supply routes in the past and then unblocking them. What we need is a more permanant solution for this problem. I am afraid if we do not take these NATO attacks more seriously they will become a everyday affair just like drone strikes. When drone strikes started they used to serve as the major headline of every national news channel and news paper now everyone has started to just accept them.
It is a challange for the miilitary leadership and considering their past achievements I do not have much hopes from them. Only God can help us now.
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This is all Bluster,Bravado and impotent posturing.
All post mishap comments made by political and Army bigwigs is just a token response for public consumption.
There will be no decision taken against the wishes of NATO or the US.
Once you have succumbed, that will be the precedent for the rest of the relationship duration.
As they say with the underworld – There is only one way – IN and not OUT.
Intime even this would be forgotten and all will be the same.
The Pak government or the Army does not have the gumption to stand up against the US.
You dont stand up to these tyrants in news conferences or closed door debates but you stand up when they try to buy you with Aid.
Unfortunately that never happened and this is the consequence ” A ROYAL SELL OUT “.
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Does the US Embassy thinks that an offer of condolence can compensate for our brave soldiers? If a single US of NATO soldier would have been killed by the Pakistan Army, the NATO and the ISAF would have made life hell for Pakistan. I guess it is time for Pakistan to leave this so called ‘strategic partnership’ with the US and its allies.
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Pakistanis must be thinking it is a good news, it really is a good news , but there is a way big worse news hidden in it. When 24 security men are killed , the NATO supplies are stopped, why havent these NATO , US etc. been stopped till today when they have killed thousand of people in FATA. What should I think now whether this news is good or not, I will go with the latter.
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We have to wait for next WikiLeaks to know actual intentions of our leaders on this issue…
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are the two army guys sitting behind kayani sleeping in the picture above?
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After some words of apology, some money and everything would be fine. Our brave generals have impressed their rightwing allies with their “talk”. Talk is cheap and it can con the public again and again.
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Assalam-o-Allaikum Warahmatullah.Now finally the time has come to wake up from the dreams of carelessness and inattentiveness and talk to USA from eyeball to eyeball without showing any flexibility and on bilateral level and without accepting any apology and excuse from US’ leaders on this intentional attack.Enough is enough.If our leaders shall not wake up now then when?Never show any soft corner for US leaders in your heart and protect Pakistan,Pakistan’s nation,sovereignty,integrity,honor,grace,dignity and self-reliance by only trusting Allah Almighty firmly and strongly.As you have seen that USA couldn’t do any thing against Iran and the reason is advanced Western nations are coward this is why no any advanced Western country attacks alone especially USA on any country and the world has seen this the live example in this regard that USA attacked on Iraq and Afghanistan with the help of NATO members’ countries.Pakistani leaders now your this unity should prove a solid wall against the USA and NATO not the balloon’s air or empty drum from inside and loud from outside.Trust Allah Almighty and you will see Allah Almighty is and shall be with you whenever you will pray and call Him Insha Allah.
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@Yaz
Why would you declare the us ambassador as persona non grata? What has he done? Did you hear this phrase today?
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@Ishi:
ha ha ha gud joke n keep waiting
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all the guys condemning this incident are forgetting that thousands of family are having food on the table because of nato supply lines truck drivers cleaners roadside restaurant owners waiters cooks. Its very easy for people having enough food on their table to talk through their nose. Will these people provide help and food to the families affected.Recommend
Problem is our army is psychologically and materially so dependent on the American Master that it can do nothing even if they kill a thousand soldiers. And as we all know army makes our policies, not the civilian institutions. So expect to see a big NOTHING
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Pakistan cannot do anything. US will ask all multilateral agencies top aid and Pakistan will go belly up. The Pakistani Army is used to US handouts. Recommend
NO MORE EXCUSES FOR “THEIR” WAR
This attack is in violation of:
1) UN Charter
2) UN Resolutions on the mandate of NATO / US Forces in Afghanistan.
3) All International Relations Treaties and Statutes and Laws governing Relationships between States / Countries.
4) Mutual Cooperation Agreements between Pakistan and NATO / US with reference to Afghanistan.
Keeping in mind the above referred points, We demand Pakistani Govt to:
1) Immediately take the matter to United Nations.
2) Permanently stop all cooperation with NATO / US in Afghanistan including Supplies to NATO / US Forces in Afghanistan.
3) Demand handing over to Pakistan of the NATO / US Military officials involved in the planning, ordering and implementation of this Attack on Pakistani Posts. (The same way that Ramzi Yousuf, Aimal Kansi and hundreds of Al-Qaeda affiliated fighters were handed over to Americans).
These officials should be tried in a COURT-OF-LAW in Pakistan and punished for their WAR-CRIMES.
4) Demand a Blood Money of at least 1 Billion Dollar per head for the Pakistani Soldiers Martyred in the Attack (The same International Laws can be pursued which forced Libya to pay Billions of Dollars to the families of those killed in the 1988 Lockerbe Bombing Case).
If you support this cause, click on the link below.
Pakistanis’ Demand: Govt should take NATO / US Attacks to UN (Facebook Group)
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With Pakistan Till The End. I hope this move is sincere and not withdrawn after the usual drama week. The people of Pakistan need to send the armed forces a clear message that any right move in the favor of the nation will be supported.
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Gen Kiyani says” These kinds of attacks will not be tolerated in future”. After 4 such attacks by Nato this year and similar statements by Gen Kiyani I am waiting for the future when these attacks will not be tolerated.
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@Ali:
Just calling it unacceptable will not do it.
Well, the suicide bombers seem to be not working either.
Time for nation to rise up and defend the country.
The Afghans have been doing it for decades, what have they achieved so far?
Where are the swedish AWACS and JF17 which were bought from the blood of the nation.
They are stationed in the hangers like a show-piece. Shame is; that they can’t dodge the US SAMs and Air-to-Air Missiles. Oops!
Shame on the establishment who cannot defend our brave soldiers.
Come’on don’t shy, take the actual name. What is establishment?
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@Ishi:
We can only ‘destruct’ them by running our ‘proxies’ against them in Afghanistan.
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They would realize that they had messed with the wrong guy. There is not a single Pakistani who is afraid or ashamed to laydown his / her last drop of blood for this Great Nation. STAND UP.
We salute all the “Shaeeds” who lost their lives in this tragic event.
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Really another hard times for Pakistani Liberals who now would face more trouble to promote US agenda in Pakistan.
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Hands on to Pakistani troops who can’t even take a helicopter down that violates its airspace… i wonder where all our country’s defence budget has been spent all these years.. and wot the hell was army doing at the border they should just go back home and sleep…
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@Hu Jintao
28 soldiers killed in cold blood and our leadership just do their usual condemnation? What we want is a retaliatory strikes on their bases.
There are others who are supposed to have killed 3500 army personnel and 30000 civilians in Pakistan.When will you demand ‘retaliatory strikes on their bases’.
@Hairan
We musk ask ISAF to handover those responsible for this attack to Pakistan authorities to try them.
And we must handover the Mumbai masterminds to India for trial.
Or may be in some branch of mathematics 28 is greater than 3500 . And in some canon of justice the rules of trial are different.
Moderator ET- Is asking for action against ‘non-state actors’ somehow offensive or what?
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It shows that in Pakistan real power lies with the army and not with the civilian government. It the civilian government was in charge then USA should not had the guts to attack the checkpost. The worst thing the USA afraid is of a strong civilian government which enjoys the support of the people.
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Don’t worry at all. We will offer them Shamsi Airbase again and will open NATO Supple line within Month.
We are MUMTAIN BAIGHEERAT!
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I think it is now more than important for Pakistan to be closer to regional powers whether small or big. There are already anti-American sentiments on a larger scale in our country. We need to revisit our foreign policy at all levels.
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So Immy K was right all along
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Bad move, as it will make usa liberate balochisan to reach afghan.
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If it was a regular Pakistani Military outpost, how could the terrorists who attacked NATO forces retreat into the military complex without being challenged? Why didn’t the guards prevent them from entering? There is more to this story than meets the eye.
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but Pakistani govt has been paid for it they have to pay back heavy price
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Stop this mock outrage. This is as per the backstage deal. The army’s boast about its ability to defend the country is bogus. Abbottabad was one example. This is yet another. It has happened twice before. either the army is thoroughly incompetent to allow its people to be shot like sitting ducks or it deferred to the wishes of the elected government, in which case all lovers of democracy and recipients of US public diplomacy largesse should rejoice. It will blow away in a few days. What matters is our fight against the Taliban. .
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we need firm decisions from govt. no surrender in front of american.
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Since we have decided not to use our heads.
The question is,
‘When do we use our Bums? When?When?When?’
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anyone can ask them why they did it? and why they did it to us only.
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@Pakistani:
we need firm decisions from govt. no surrender in front of american
Well your Govt has not made a firm decision regarding anything from internal policies, foreign policies, trade, aid judiciary, law &order etc…….
Show me one policy decesion made by this Govt which has been implemented !!!
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@Noon Meem:
Wrong
Families of Hundreds of Pakistanis who got killed by Drones and Missiles are mourning. Let’s not single out Soldiers only. They are not more than civilians.
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and to ask United States to vacate Shamsi air base within 15 days
And, Pray, how did the Americans get the Shamsi Airbase in the first place? Was it handed over by some civilians or was it given by Honourable Khakis?
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This attack was one of two things: gross negligence or self defense. But it’s crazy to believe NATO set out to intentionally attack Pakistani checkpoints for no reason. The last thing NATO or America wanted was to add fuel to the raging fire of anti-Americanism of Pakistan. I suspect the following happened: 1) NATO/afghan operation against insurgents near the border; 2) NATO sends in air support; 3) Pakistani troops fire on NATO helicopters believing they were in Pakistani air space; 4) helicopters fire back. In a perfect world, NATO would coordinate raids with Pakistan to avoid any such confusion. However, since a large element in the Pakistan actively supports, trains and directs the insurgents, such coordination is impossible. Finally, to all posters calling for retaliatory attacks, what would you say if the NATO helicopters had been shot down by the Pakistani troops? Of course, you would say it never happened, conspiracy to blame Pakistan, etc.Recommend
@Iron hand:
You have hit it on the head!! This is the most likely scenario that took place !
But the sheeps in this country will not be able to accept the facts even when they will be made public !!!
Their Ghairat is being affected, however that same Ghairat does not come into play when they refuse to pay any taxes or cheat with utilities suppliers etc !!!!
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faraz ahmed here from karachi
America is not our friend, he is our open enemy
PAKISTAN should take harsh decision against USA.
it my page its a small struggle by me to record protest against USA
plz like and share it. thankyou
https://www.facebook.com/pages/NO-MORE/143290979112214
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This incident can damage the relationship between USA &PAK .USA will have to be very careful about the sovereignty of its allied Pakistan. Any government in Pakistan cannot exist or defend US interests if such incidents happens.
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Just reading these posts tells you who your ( pakistans) real enemies are. These are the cowardly Indians who are not only gleeful about this attack and loss of life but are openly taunting you. And you have no compunction in giving them the MNF staus.
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@SYED KASHMIRI:
Take that MFN status back and see who is the actual losers !!!!
Don’t get on your high horse and talk about loss of lives here, as Mumbai too saw loss of lives of not Army personal but basic civilians and tourist just going about their daily lives and the victims families are still awaiting closure, three years on, but due to Pakistan’s blame games and denials that is not going to happen too !!!!
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@Mohammad Ali Siddiqui: Motherland or fatherland ??
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It is absolute nonsense, the statement of the NATO Chief, that it was not a intended act !
I wonder if he could explain,how can taking time to kill 28 and grievously injuring scores others be unintended ?…Secondly,especially when they use the most sophisticated weaponry fitted with the state of the art latest technology, which easily detects and can identify exact target areas ?…If it is recalled ,a few days prior to this cold blooded butchering attack, two NATO helicopters had flown into the same area and carried full surveillance before returning back! This was not the first incident,last year in October,even two NATO helicopters had intruded deep into the Pakistan territory and shot at a check post martyring 2 Pakistani soldiers.
Beyond any reason of doubt it was a cold bloodied murderous attack by the cowardly Global Gangsters, the US/NATO…
It is suggestive that God forbid, if worst comes to worst…As a matter of preparedness our missiles should be readied and pointed in the direction of Kabul-Afghanistan.
In all fairness the Afghan government is responsible for such attacks ,since they are emanating from their soil,where these Global Gangsters are stationed.Pakistan would be within it’s legal right to fire missiles in retaliation of another attack on its soil from across the Afghan border…
Also again factually, the Pakistan governments action both diplomatically and militarily should be directed towards Afghanistan.It is they who are harboring these war mongering ,sadistically insane foreign terrorists forces…The Pakistani nation proudly salutes their martyred brave soldiers and vows to stand with them to battle and eliminate the enemy’s of our motherland .Allah-o-Akbar.
Pakistan Zindabad and Pakistan Army Zindabad….
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I have only one question to our politicians you want to do some thing or not?if you want to do some thing destroy every engagement with USA.
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