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Mumbai Attacks: Pakistan needs 'credible evidence', says Rehman Malik

Published: November 25, 2011

Interior Minister says Pakistan released Hafiz Saeed because Indian evidence was "vague, insufficient". PHOTO: Banaras Khan

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has asked India to provide “credible evidence” against the perpetrators of the Mumbai attacks so that they do not secure release from Pakistan’s courts reported Express 24/7 on Friday.

Speaking to Express News at Police Lines Islamabad, Interior Minister Rehman Malik said that Pakistan did take action against Hafiz Saeed and others based on evidence provided by India but the suspects were release because the information was “vague and insufficient”.

He added that “Pakistan is ready to take action on information provided by India, which is also compulsory in the court.”

Earlier this month Indian Foreign Secretary Ranjan Mathai had refuted Rehman Malik’s claim about insufficient information, stating that evidence provided by India to Pakistan with regards to those accused in the Mumbai attacks case was sufficient.

Reader Comments (38)

  • r p
    Nov 25, 2011 - 4:47PM

    we know pakistan was and will not b sincere in punishing those muderers

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  • SB
    Nov 25, 2011 - 5:02PM

    The funny part is that the GOP accepted that the attackers were Pakistani nationals, they got training in Pakistan, they received instructions over the phone from their mentors residing deep inside Pakistan during the course of the attack, the attack was planned for years in Pakistan…GOP accepted it many times….but it asks India for evidence??? Do they expect India to send spy inside Pakistan and collect evidence for them??? This is absolutely Shameful!!!

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  • Roflcopter
    Nov 25, 2011 - 5:10PM

    How can they provide credible evidence when they don’t have it?

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  • ravi
    Nov 25, 2011 - 5:13PM

    The days of evidence is over.

    I hope pakistan is not waiting for another attack to happen.

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  • Cautious
    Nov 25, 2011 - 5:48PM

    Reminds me of an old record played once too often – the Mumbai massacre and Pakistan’s pathetic response has damaged Pakistan’s credibility in the international community.

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  • Ghaznavi
    Nov 25, 2011 - 6:01PM

    India can only make noise. When it comes to action, they dither. pakistani courts are free and would give a fair trial to the suspects. The ball is in India’s court to prove the links – beyond doubt.

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  • A.Raja Rao
    Nov 25, 2011 - 6:09PM

    What a farce – since the crime was planned and executed from Pakistan the evidence will be in Pakistan and Rehman Malik should collect the evidence in Pakistan.

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  • numbersnumbers
    Nov 25, 2011 - 6:22PM

    India just needs to make their Mumbai evidence “Dossier” public! Then the world would see if the evidence was “credible”, or is Pakistan/Malek just dragging its/his feet so as not to “inconvenience” any Pakistani “assets”!

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  • Pradeep
    Nov 25, 2011 - 6:37PM

    Pakistan is in a real catch-22 here isn’t it? On one hand, Pakistan denies involvement of the state in the Mumbai attacks. However if this is true, then the contents of memo in the memogate scandal are wrong and hence Hussain Haqqani was wrongfully punished. I say this because the memo explicitly mentions that the folks within the machinery who were part of the attack would be brought to justice. Now it is for the Pakistanis to decide which one is true.

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  • Azharuddin Masood
    Nov 25, 2011 - 7:02PM

    Rehman Malik Sahab… Living Ajmal Kasab is the live and most credible evidence lavishing a very expensive life in Indian Jails. Whole world knows the preparators of Mumbai Attack except Pakistan and its judiciary. come out from your dilemmas. Repeadly you are asking for credible evidence and making mockery of your nation and your jidiciary system.Recommend

  • American Desi
    Nov 25, 2011 - 8:19PM

    Denialistan, that’s what it is! It is foolish of Indians to expect the ISI to be brought to justice.

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  • dude
    Nov 25, 2011 - 8:19PM

    >stop Joking mr. Rahman, let up forget now, now salt on wounds please…Recommend

  • Asif Butt
    Nov 25, 2011 - 8:33PM

    TO ALL INDIANS

    We dont want to attack or kill any Indian ( brother / sister ).

    We want to punish those proven of this guilt.

    Forget about our government , ask your own government to make public the evidence available.

    Then let the people of Pakistan and their opinion show you whether we are capable of granting justice to you or not.

    It is my personal belief that if properly proven guilty , we will protest and make sure that our leaders dont deny it.

    But sorry guys , cant promise more that that.

    Balls in your court now ….

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  • hedgefunder
    Nov 25, 2011 - 8:51PM

    This is like an old story, where people in charge will keep denying the facts to suit their own agendas,while their nation is heading towards Oblivion !!
    Keep it up and see whare you and your nation are in next decade !!!

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  • ashok sai
    Nov 25, 2011 - 10:11PM

    Dr.Malik, even if the terrorists killed during mumbai masscre comes alive and tells the truth, you are going to sing the same song only , so get on with keeping your post intact, we know how to tackle this issue.

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  • narayana murthy
    Nov 25, 2011 - 11:14PM

    I’m sorry Mr.Malik…no one in India has a video of the ten terrorists being trained by your countrymen, being sent on a boat, hijacking an Indian boat, arriving in Mumbai and killing 170 people.

    If you need that video, you have to wait for next Ram Gopal Verma’s crappy movie.

    You need evidence. It’s your job to garner evidence in your country Mr.Malik or choose to be a liar.

    God bless you.

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  • narayana murthy
    Nov 25, 2011 - 11:20PM

    Or perhaps, Mr.Malik is trying to get back into the limelight, which was stolen by Mr. Haqqani, Mr. Ijaz, the foreign office and Ms. Rehman and others for about a week.

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  • narayana murthy
    Nov 25, 2011 - 11:42PM

    @Ghaznavi,

    Well sir, you can’t be serious. We all know that the perpetrators came from Pakistan.

    What do you expect us to do? How can we give the kind of evidence, which is in fact available in your own land.

    Here’s a sincere piece of advice that might sound like a threat…either you get honest and do the needful (I know, archaic British English) or face destruction. Trust me, not your Ummah, not the great land of pure can save you from self destruction.Recommend

  • narayana murthy
    Nov 25, 2011 - 11:58PM

    @Asif Butt,

    I respect your opinion and agree with it. However, being such a logical person, you must understand that a huge percentage of evidence exists within Pakistan (as it was plotted in Pakistan) and India will never be able to provide these evidences, unless there was Mr. India holding an invisible video camera shooting all the actions.

    So, the fact that your government denies only proves either of the following two points…1) They are unwilling to garner evidence and take action against a certain group of people, who are responsible for that horrible event. 2) They are complicit.

    Please be reasonable Mr. Butt. We Indians are not asking for you to change your constitution. We are asking for murderers to be put behind bars. Is that too much to ask for…at the least, considering your own country’s good future? You might feel like a winner as of now. But, believe me, no sinner is a winner in the long run. Things will haunt you. Haunt you good!

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  • Bagarbilla
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:50AM

    @Azharuddin Masood: Bring Ajmal Kasab on the Media. And let Pakistani Media interview him. The truth will come out in two minutes. Want to do that?Let’s do it.

    @Pradeep: Bring your evidence instead of drawing conclusion from others’ statements.
    @r p:
    When do you think you are going to withdraw 500,000 Indian State sponsored Terrorists in Kashmir and stop killing Kashmiris? Go ahead and stop that State Terrorism in Kashmir before cry over the split milk. Are they not human or what? Until this criminal mentality doesn’t change no one is going to listen to you. Grow up and stop crying.

    @SB:
    You believe GOP candidates? And their Knowledge about the foreign Events and Policy? Let me tell you none of them except Ron Paul know something about Foreign Policy. All others lie of that forum. Check the facts and you will know that. Even FOX News had a review of what they said and each candidate was 180 degrees away from the reality except Ron Paul. Therefore, quoting them to prove your argument is a certain loser. Go check the Fact checks on their debate.
    @numbersnumbers: My advice to people like you is “GROW UP”.

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  • what a joke
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:08AM

    indian dossier was full of jokes from day 1…. as long india does not let Pakistani authorities conduct a joint investigation how can we trust their Bollywoodized dossier…

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  • harkol
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:19AM

    Does this guy even realize how fake he sounds on all matters he talks on?

    Besides, Whom is he trying to convince Pakistan establishment’s intentions are honorable? Reports after reports have shown how Pakistan establishment protects its ‘assets’.

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  • vikram
    Nov 26, 2011 - 2:29AM

    If we give you photos, you will say it is morphed.
    If we give voice samples, you will say the voices are dubbed.
    If we give videos, you will say they are computer graphics.
    If we give you DNA samples, you say they are bogus.
    If we give you the name of the mastermind,you say that person does not exist.
    If we give you a killer whom we caught, you say he is innocent.
    It is ok if you don’t punish anyone in Pak for 26/11. At least, see that your proxy assets don’t send visitors to our country again.Recommend

  • A.Raja Rao
    Nov 26, 2011 - 6:18AM

    I feel India should take this issue to a court such as the International Court in the Hague so that this issue of not enough evidence is sorted out once and for all.

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  • Mola Jatt
    Nov 26, 2011 - 12:05PM

    let a joint investigation take place…. let our guys come there, interview kasab, and others witnesses, analyze the evidence themselves…. then the real truth will come out… .truth fears no investigation….

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  • maestro
    Nov 26, 2011 - 3:02PM

    To all Indians,

    Our courts NEED evidence – Hafiz Saeed is under house arrest. Give us proper evidence so we can convict these murderers. We cried when the Mumbai attacks happened. We are with you. Peace.

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  • Mango Man
    Nov 26, 2011 - 4:54PM

    What more evidence, when even Pak govt on side concedes that the terrorists are based out of Pak while deny the same when it comes to taking action. Then the foolish phrase I ever heard – “Non state actors” – Hafeez Saeed travels on a Pak Passport, he is a Pakistani, period. These are just lame attempts at denial and conspiracy theories!Recommend

  • 66
    Nov 26, 2011 - 6:43PM

    @maestro:
    What kind of house arrest is this if Hafiz Saeed can go out and take part in rallies.
    I thought the Indian establishment was poor but the award for the most useless and two faced establishment definately goes to Pakistan.

    Pakistan not investigating the matter means only 2 things:
    1) State agencies were involved in the mumbai attack
    or
    2) Pakistan will only act if India provides it with some concession

    We all know the way things work in Pakistan … evidence has never been something that prevents the implementation of something the state wants

    World opinion is totally anti-pakistan and the pakistani economy is just about keeping its head above water … Pakistan though still believes it can dictate policy to the rest of the world.

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  • James
    Nov 26, 2011 - 7:13PM

    On what evidence is Zakhvi and the rest sitting in Karachi jails.They were arrested on the evidence that Pakistan had gathered .For instance the outboard motors were sold by a Karachi dealer.Even this evidence was gathered due to foreign pressure.If Pakistan was serious they could have investigated and got more evidence.The operation was planned and trained in Pakistan.A country that is serious about bringing the terrorists to book would not initially deny that Kasab belonged to Pakistan.Instead a cover up was launched,till exposed by Geo channel reporters.Till now even a judge has not been appointed to try Zakhvi and company.A country who is afraid to prosecute the killer of Salman Taseer will not try to convict the Mumbai terrorists

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  • Raj
    Nov 26, 2011 - 8:51PM

    Pakistan should provide evidence that today`s attack was by NATO Forces.

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  • Mina
    Nov 26, 2011 - 9:42PM

    For all those commenting recklessly, if you study the cases there is actually LITTLE by way of evidence in these “dossiers”. If there was India would have highlighted it to their public. Wishes arent horses, and courts cant prosecute on the basis of heresay. Earlier this year India was acutely embarrased when it discovered that of the MOST WANTED people it was demanding from Pakistan, 2 were actually in INDIAN CUSTODY while they blamed Pakistan: Wazhul Kamar Khan & Feroze Rashid Khan…. just shows how efficient these “dossiers” are ! search it plz!

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  • hedgefunder
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:22PM

    @Mina:
    Courts can’t prosecute anyway in Pakistan !!!
    When the Judges do decide to issue sentences, they then have to take extended leave for their own safety, possibly abroad, such is the state of Judiciary and Law & Order in Pakistan !!!!
    Keep up this denials and no doubt, this will be Pakistan’s very own undoing too !!!

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  • Mina
    Nov 26, 2011 - 11:58PM

    dear @hedgefunder, this is no denial. terror is a reality in southasia, but lets not have double standards.. if hafiz syed shud be prosecuted for ‘rabble rousing’ what abt bal thackeray? when has he even been ‘censured’ for his documented hate stoking? oh but he inspires too much ‘fear’ for that. prescribe to others that which u can do urself too!
    and did u check on the ACCURACY of indian dossiers as i suggested?!

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  • A.Raja Rao
    Nov 27, 2011 - 6:49AM

    I repeat that this has to be tried outside Pakistan since nothing will come out if it is done inside Pakistan – none of the agencies involved, the police, the investigating agencies, the politicians, the judiciary are all afraid of the right wing militants and will not repeat will not take any action and will keep on talking and talking.

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  • Samir
    Nov 27, 2011 - 7:07AM

    Rehman Malik is a joke and we have made Pakistan into a joke by the way we treat the rest of the world and backstab everyone. No wonder now that no one cares about the NATO strike on Pakistani soldiers – we have lost all credibility in the world.

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  • Asif Butt
    Nov 27, 2011 - 8:59AM

    Dear Readers ,

    I would like to ask through your acquaintance why “Express Tribune” has NOT posted a recent reply of mine on this very forum ? Do they want to discourage healthy debate or do they have some political motivation of their own ?

    Waiting … (with a secondary plan in my mind )

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  • Udaya Bose
    Nov 27, 2011 - 10:42AM

    Rehman Malik is right. How can he get credible evidence from !NCREDIBLE !NDIA ???

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  • hedgefunder
    Nov 27, 2011 - 2:48PM

    @Samir:
    “Rehman Malik is a joke and we have made Pakistan into a joke by the way we treat the rest of the world and backstab everyone. No wonder now that no one cares about the NATO strike on Pakistani soldiers – we have lost all credibility in the world. “

    What did you expect from rest of the global community, when the people in charge of Nation are so inept at their jobs ????
    Have you noticed no messages of condolences or support from any of the Muslin Nations or for that matter from that all weather friend, China !!!!
    This should show to the rulers in Pakistan that the world is catching on to their duplicity and deceit in their War on Terror !!!

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