Mullah Omar has never been in Pakistan: Musharraf

Published: November 9, 2011

Musharraf explains that Mullah Omar is operating from the Afghan countryside. PHOTO: AFP/ FILE

LONDON: Former president of Pakistan, General (retd) Pervez Musharraf on Wednesday said that Taliban commander Mullah Omar has “never been in Pakistan.”

In an interview on BBC HardTalk, Musharraf said that Mullah Omar “has no reason to be in Pakistan”. Musharraf explained that Omar is in Kandahar and is an Afghan leader operating from the Afghan countryside.

Musharraf also vehemently denied the existence of the Quetta Shura which US intelligence believes is headed by Mullah Omar from Balochistan.

“You say it is true, I say it is all nonsense,” Musharraf said to presenter Stephen Sackur about the presence of the Quetta Shura.

“If you think that there is a Quetta Shura regularly meeting with conference tables and a flag of Quetta Shura and Taliban … this is all nonsense.”

For years, the US officials have said the one-eyed Omar is based is in the south-western city of Quetta, not far from the Afghan border, where he heads a Taliban leadership council, or shura.

Pakistan rejects assertions that Omar is in Pakistan, or even that the so-called Quetta Shura exists. But such denials came under question after al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was found in the country after years of similar protestations.

During the interview, Musharraf was also asked about the Pakistani military’s ignorance of Bin Laden’s presence in Abbottabad, which the former general termed “bad luck”.

He also agreed that the relationship between Pakistan and the US has “fundamentally broken down”, saying it is at the “lowest ebb”.

Musharraf has lived in exile since stepping down in 2008 but hopes to launch a political comeback next year.

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  • Aryabhat
    Nov 9, 2011 - 4:25PM

    This is same man who said there were NO Pakistani troops in Kargil and refused to accept even dead bodies of his own troops!

    Interesting to find out how does Musharaf know where Mulla Omar is not? That is beacuse he knows where Mulla Omar is? :-)

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  • Nadeem
    Nov 9, 2011 - 4:27PM

    “Osama bin Laden is not in Pakistan” – quote from Musharraf. 2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010, and April 2011

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  • Tony Singh
    Nov 9, 2011 - 4:36PM

    That’s what you claimed about BinLaden too till you were caught.Recommend

  • Sam
    Nov 9, 2011 - 4:43PM

    has never been in Pakistan or he is not in Pakistan right now?

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  • Drone-Acharya
    Nov 9, 2011 - 4:47PM

    Here we go again !! Don’t know if these guys even realize what this is doing to the credibility of Pakistan. All we now have to do is wait till a drone gets him deep inside Pakistan.

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  • Mohammad Ali Siddiqui
    Nov 9, 2011 - 4:49PM

    I have very doubts about the statement given by General Pervez Musharraf that Mullah Omar has never been to Pakistan.

    Musharraf during his illegitimate regime has given such statements about Osama Bin Laden that he was not in Pakistan.

    At several occasions, Musharraf also briefed the local and international media that OBL is hiding in Afghanistan. At one point Musharraf said that OBL is in Tura Bura. Some times Musharraf also referred the case of OBL that he is hiding behind the mountains of Afghanistan.

    All statements of General Pervez Musharraf become zero when an exclusive operation was conducted by the US Navy Seals and shot OBL in Abbottabad where he was living with his several wifes and children.

    This was the reality that OBL was finally found in Pakistan. How can Musharraf says that Mulla Omar was never been to Pakistan?

    One never knows that Mullah Omar may be hiding and enjoying his life some where in Pakistan like OBL did.

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  • R S JOHAR
    Nov 9, 2011 - 4:55PM

    Pakistan’s fixed motto is to keep on denying the accusations till get caught and then issue yet another denial feigning ignorance. The mountain of denials height is going to exceed Mount Everest. Recommend

  • zalim singh
    Nov 9, 2011 - 5:05PM

    @ Musharraf

    Mullah Omar has “never been in Pakistan.”

    great comment. Till he gets caught. Then u will sing another tune- we were mistaken but never complicit. You can be called the incompetent president for what you are.

    Bogus development figures during your tenure
    Bogus promises to USA on eradicating terrorism while helping them.
    Bogus help to USA and cheating them of $ 25 billion.Recommend

  • Ch Allah Daad
    Nov 9, 2011 - 5:05PM

    He is making Mullah Umar and his emerging representative happy, because there is a great chance when Musharaf returns home, he would need their permission to land at Pakistani airport.

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  • Cautious
    Nov 9, 2011 - 5:27PM

    This guy has zero credibility.

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  • Nov 9, 2011 - 5:34PM

    Musharraf sb:
    Such likha krain, such bola krain. Allah k saamnay haazir hona hay sarkaar..
    You remember ‘the Tora Bora’ stuff what you wrote quoting the ex-deputy sec of state, United States of America, Mr Richard Armitage?
    Mr Richard didn’t verify the statement and said, “I’ve NEVER used these words while talking to Mush”.
    Keeping your excellent record of incorrect statements in view, how can someone, home or abroad, believe if Mulla Omer was in Pakistan or Not?Recommend

  • epicurus
    Nov 9, 2011 - 5:51PM

    like usama never was????

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  • Aaron
    Nov 9, 2011 - 6:04PM

    Yes, Pakistani troops were never in Kargil & Osama Bin Laden was not in Pakistan either. It is something special when your foremost spokesperson is up on 2 murder charges and a fugitive from justice in HIS OWN COUNTRY. Has Musharraf ever admitted ANYTHING? His credibility is up there with that of the Pakistani Cricket Team (although, they aren’t forced to live in another Country, so obviously their credibility is somewhat higher…:P)Recommend

  • Adeel759
    Nov 9, 2011 - 6:12PM

    I Listed too his interview, seems like he is coming to pakistan in march next year

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  • Kamal
    Nov 9, 2011 - 6:15PM

    I watched the interview and this is grossly taken out of context, besides how does ‘he has no reason to be in Pakistan’ becomes ‘he has never been in Pakistan’

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  • ashok sai
    Nov 9, 2011 - 6:24PM

    Got it, he is giving the hint that the one eyed man is very much in Pakistan.

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  • Rahul
    Nov 9, 2011 - 6:38PM

    ha ha ha ha …. you made my day… ha ha haRecommend

  • Nov 9, 2011 - 6:52PM

    Vienna,November 9,2011
    Day & night vision goggles are needed to find Mullah Omer.
    Pakistan lacks them.But google can look and pin point the
    location. Of late U.S.Navy SEALS have acquired specials
    eyes in the sky that look into the heart of earth.General
    Musharraf,just wait until the one eyed Mullah is picked
    up with the special operation command backing by the
    SEALS led by the SEAL dog.Await the miracle.
    Taravadu Taranga Trust for Media Monitoring TTTMM India
    –Kulamarva Balakrishna

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  • Alok
    Nov 9, 2011 - 7:25PM

    And Santa brings him nice presents for being such a nice boy.

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  • Hedgefunder
    Nov 9, 2011 - 7:33PM

    No doubt he must know as to MO’s whereabouts, just like he knew OBL’s location too!!!
    Time he goes into retirement !!!

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  • Ashamed
    Nov 9, 2011 - 7:33PM

    Does Musharraf live or has lived in the real world, or has he just been Machiavellian all his life?

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  • bahraini
    Nov 9, 2011 - 7:47PM

    For some of you here be it known that that he is a member of the elite group of highest paid speakers in the world. Leading tv channels interview him. He speaks for reputable institutions, think tanks, universities etc. Be assured CNN or BBC will not call any of you to give opinions! For that matter not any of our present “leaders”.

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  • Shah
    Nov 9, 2011 - 7:48PM

    @Aryabhat:

    In kargil didnt take the bodies????? Dude which Indian Times quoted that. Come out of the dark please.

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  • Jadugar
    Nov 9, 2011 - 7:48PM

    Musharraf is either playing ignorant on purpose or he is totally devoid of truth now and when he was the president. Showing such ignorance rather negates your standing in the world community as well as In Pakistan. Mr Musharraf I thought you were different from other typical politicians. Please don’t loose your shirt over these terrorist.Recommend

  • YEAHRIGHT
    Nov 9, 2011 - 7:50PM

    @zalim singh:

    Yeah right check out the Documentry made by RTL GERMANY on financial situation in Pakistan in the year 2002 till 2007.

    Bogus are you talking here.

    He might not be the best leader but please check your facts before quoting.

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  • YEAHRIGHT
    Nov 9, 2011 - 7:53PM

    @Kulamarva Balakrishna:

    The US Seal took the most wanted person in the world and shot him on the head although there are comfirmed news he was unarmed.
    If US is so proud on their capture than why kill him and bury him within 48 hours.
    I am not saying about conspricacy theory here. But these are just the facts.

    Secondly before commenting on extremism in Pakistan deal with Siv Sena first. Good day

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  • Majid
    Nov 9, 2011 - 7:58PM

    As Osama Bin Laden has never lived in Pakistan too … lol

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  • Ahmad
    Nov 9, 2011 - 8:04PM

    @shah

    maybe you need to come out of the dark. Pakistan never accepted their own soldiers’ bodies back. They were buried by the Indian army. What an irony, no? Our ‘enemies’ respect our soldiers more than us. If we had accepted them back, 1) We would have accepted that they were indeed pakistani soldiers, which we still deny; we labelled them as freedom fighters, 2) All of Pakistan would have seen the spectacle of dead bodies being brought back, it would have been a humiliation for the army, which of course was best avoided. Musharraf was solely responsible for this, the man who says “Pakistan first” but doesn’t have the guts to accept his own soldier’s bodies back, people whom he was directly responsible for killing. A murder charge for Kargil wouldn’t be too far off the mark. Nawaz Sharif was perfectly justified in firing him(albeit belatedly).Recommend

  • WoW
    Nov 9, 2011 - 8:09PM

    @bahraini: Yes he might be the highest paid Pakistani. Western media are paying him to make Pak look silly and you are helping him.Recommend

  • Malik
    Nov 9, 2011 - 8:53PM

    lets do something better, for last 10 year these bunch of blockheads are such a problem for the whole world. What I conclude is that there is seriously lack of Will on part of everyone including America, Europe, China, Russia, Pakistan and India to actually getrid of proxy fighters – mullays. We need to come to one voice or one solution that we want to get rid of these blockheads. These people are problem for sustainable and peaceful future of the world. So we all must make a decision that – LETS GETRID OF MULLAHS. The day there will be an agreement between all parties involved the day there will be end of Mullahism. They are no good for anyone and they are waste of money when they are used for fighting proxy wars. Recommend

  • Anjum
    Nov 9, 2011 - 9:21PM

    @Nadeem:
    And he was not. What make you believe it was OBL in Abbotabad? You dont find it credible OBL was killed years ago maybe already in 2001?

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  • bahraini
    Nov 9, 2011 - 9:29PM

    @WoW:
    He has participated in speaking events and interviews etc in China, Singapore, Sweden, Malaysia, UAE, India, Nigeria etc . So its not only UK and USA. Get your facts straight before commenting.

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  • RRS
    Nov 9, 2011 - 9:52PM

    I can believe Mr. Musharraf assertion that “Mullah Omar is not in Pakistan” just I had believed his assertion that “Osama is not in Pakistan”.
    Fool me once, Shame on you. Fool me twice, Shame on me

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  • hamza khan
    Nov 9, 2011 - 9:54PM

    @Nadeem:

    can you please quote sources on this?Recommend

  • hamza khan
    Nov 9, 2011 - 9:55PM

    @Aryabhat:

    and he’s the same man who inflicted 2500 dead indian soldiers on your sorry army in 3 months. after which your great country decided to induldge in a little corruption (because after all, its india) by ordering more coffins than were needed. hahahaha…only india.

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  • Ashutosh
    Nov 9, 2011 - 10:05PM

    He said it ! Omar is in Pakistan.
    .
    Now, time to comb Pakistan friends !

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  • hamza khan
    Nov 9, 2011 - 10:06PM

    for all of these out of the know, happily-oblivous types trolling here, please provide one statement from president musharraf where he has CATEGORICALLY stated that OBL was NEVER in pakistan. i will change my name if there is one person who can provide a believable link to a story where president musharraf has made this comment. for all the pakistanis here, you should understand that president musharraf is defending his country against allegations being made by indians and their afghan buddies. there is a nexus to tarnish pakistans image as the center of the taliban, whereas the reality is totally different. the taliban are inside afghanistan, and that is where they have operated out of for 10 years since 9/11. there is support going into afghanistan from pakistan for them, that is true. but why would mullah omar be in pakistan? he has all of his supporters inside afghanistan. this is the point president musharraf is making. for people on ET site who have no understanding of geo politics, please go back to reading your kiddy books. leave this site for people’s who’s IQ’s are above their shoe size.Recommend

  • Pakistani
    Nov 9, 2011 - 10:08PM

    Musharaf refused to accept that our soldiers were fighting in Kargil, the bodies were disowned, and for many days were with Indian army. If he is such a patriot why doesnt this brave commando come to Pakistan. He is just earning money by being in the headlines. Musharaf come n face cases against you, the Bugti case, Lala Masjid and Benazir Bhutto. and if Musharaf says Mula Umar is not in Pakistan then he surely is.Recommend

  • Talal
    Nov 9, 2011 - 10:27PM

    I’m surprised to see people actually believing that Osama bin Laden was found in Pakistan. How can you believe that bullcrap? No evidence, no photos, no body?

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  • Aftab Kenneth Wilson
    Nov 9, 2011 - 10:28PM

    You are wrong Sir. Mullah Omar studied here in our country from one of a leading Madrassa. If even he is not in Pakistan, at least he is “Made In Pakistan”. No denials please ……

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  • Ali Noor
    Nov 9, 2011 - 10:56PM

    Spoken like a pro. A good leader will NEVER share correct information about his/her countries intelligence aparatus. And those people who think musharaf should, need to grow up and not live in a bed of roses fantasy world.

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  • rehmat
    Nov 10, 2011 - 12:56AM

    @Shah:
    “In kargil didnt take the bodies????? Dude which Indian Times quoted that. Come out of the dark please”

    In 1999 Pakistan’s ISPR and governments information secretary denied that troops in Kargil were Pakistani soldiers. They claimed that this was an indigenous movement done by mujaheeds. SO when India tried to return dead bodies of soldiers, Pakistan refused to accept them. It is much later that Pakistan accepted that it was the regular army and not mujahids who were involved in Kargil and Musharraf even write it in hisbook.

    So this news is not what Indian newsmakers were saying this is ISPR – Mushahid Hussain at that time..

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  • rehmat
    Nov 10, 2011 - 1:01AM

    @Talal:
    “I’m surprised to see people actually believing that Osama bin Laden was found in Pakistan. How can you believe that bullcrap? No evidence, no photos, no body?”

    So Osama’s wives were in Pakistan’s custody for months after US claimed they had kiled Osama. Why di Pakistan not ask them if their husband died now or 10 years back? Considering that everything else is denied by ISPR – if there was any chance to deny, I am sure Pak government would have but it did not.

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  • rehmat
    Nov 10, 2011 - 1:06AM

    @Ali Noor:
    “Spoken like a pro. A good leader will NEVER share correct information about his/her countries intelligence aparatus. And those people who think musharaf should, need to grow up and not live in a bed of roses fantasy world”.

    He is not currently a leader of Pakistan.
    No one is asking him to share information, he is creating these speaking engagements for which he gets paid very well. So ofcourse if he shows up as a speaker, people will ask him questions.
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  • Dr.Kadar Khan FRCS
    Nov 10, 2011 - 4:13AM

    Hang on Mush. You said the same thing about OBL and nearly came to fist with Karzai and his Team on this issue.. You have been away too long and you are getting on a bit. Recommend

  • rehmat
    Nov 10, 2011 - 5:37AM

    @hamza khan:
    “for all of these out of the know, happily-oblivous types trolling here, please provide one statement from president musharraf where he has CATEGORICALLY stated that OBL was NEVER in pakistan”

    He said that in Jon Stewart’s show. Jon Stewart rubbed it in his face when he invited him for a follow-up interview AFTER OSAMA was kiled. Musharraf just kept quiet. He could not defend himself. Google it. It is easy enough to find..

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  • Soho
    Nov 10, 2011 - 5:46AM

    Fools! And they’re defenders of pakistan? God help Pakistan!

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  • numbersnumbers
    Nov 10, 2011 - 6:15AM

    @Anjum:
    And OBL left his wives and children in Abbotabad? And Al-Qaeda morned his loss on their web pages and appointed Zawahiri to replace him? And the Americans recovered his computers, hard drives, and such before leaving the compound! Maybe the Americans gave OBL a green card and he is now driving a cab in NYC!

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  • Ali Noor
    Nov 10, 2011 - 6:19AM

    @rehmat: He is a former president, which gives him more say in pakistani politics than you and I. And as you so rightly pointed out that he attends these seminars only to get paid, not to represent Pakistan, yet when asked such questions he remains patriotic to the state and the deeper state within. Thus a pro.

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  • Aceleaf
    Nov 10, 2011 - 7:02AM

    One eyed person will be caught one day. Either thir side of border or opposite.

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  • Anon
    Nov 10, 2011 - 7:53AM

    Musharaff in 2025 – ” I was never in Pakistan”

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  • gk
    Nov 10, 2011 - 8:56AM

    Mr, mush, speak truth then good to hear. sometimes, latter is a dangerous thing

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  • Manju
    Nov 10, 2011 - 12:21PM

    @Anon:
    Bro.. It will be more like ‘I am not a Pakistani and possibly i am an Indian’…

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  • Yousaf
    Nov 10, 2011 - 1:33PM

    All those who are opposing Musharraf…. you are ANTI Pakistan. Pervez Musharraf is PRO Pakistan thus we appreciate him for his statements, even if you all think he is lying.

    He doesn’t speak against the interests of Pakistan, unlike many others in or out of the government or a common man who has nothing to do with the politics, like you all anti Musharraf.

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  • R S JOHAR
    Nov 10, 2011 - 3:10PM

    Ninety percent of statements made by Musharraf are pure lies and rest ten percent are half truths.

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  • Hedgefunder
    Nov 10, 2011 - 4:48PM

    @Yousaf:
    He is 21st century Adventurer and Opportunist, nothing more !!!
    He tried it with his Kargil attempt and came unstuck, hence was sacked by Democratically Elected Government, so he seiges power in coup, on pretence of National interests !!!!
    Of course he is Pro Pakistan, as he has ambitions to return to the political arena in the country in near future !!!!!

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  • YEAHRIGHT
    Nov 10, 2011 - 5:19PM

    @Soho:
    No we should ask people sitting behind a pc to defend pakistan.Recommend

  • YEAHRIGHT
    Nov 10, 2011 - 5:28PM

    @Dr.Kadar Khan FRCS:
    Yeah right a seal team killed an unarmed person and buried him within 48 hours. Why didnt they bring him to court? the story is fishy.
    Secondly the famous 9/11 or Mumbai attack took place because of intelligence faillures.

    OBL was not even cammanding from that house. Even the neighbouring houses had no idea..but as usual we pakistanis expect our Army to do every thing ….lame

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  • sajid khan
    Nov 10, 2011 - 10:46PM

    @hamza khan: lol where did u come with the 2500 number bro.all authentic sources indicate indian army suffered 527 killed 1363 wounded while the pak army’s entire northern light infantry was wiped out with some 4000 troops dead,the post mortems conducted on the bodies indicated they had died of starvation and hunger.

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  • Nov 11, 2011 - 12:21AM

    Oh what a idiotic statement ! wasted all the money and resources spent upon him during all his tenure in the army-like most of our Bravos do. Same Muntra Same state of Denial Same not learning from the history attitude. Keep it up Bravos but remember the Sand shall not hold in your closed hands!

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  • YEAHRIGHT
    Nov 11, 2011 - 12:42PM

    @rehmat:

    Yeah so if Jon Stewart says Pakistan is a traitor, we should believe tht right..???? Ask him how can the intelligence in US negelect and get got punched on the face on 9/11.

    wht a joke…

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  • YEAHRIGHT
    Nov 11, 2011 - 1:22PM

    @Ali Noor:

    I agree with you

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  • Butt
    Nov 11, 2011 - 1:37PM

    This is totally out of context. Indians can make whatever comments they like because they are so afraid of our hero. Musharraf measures India very well. I always love the way Musharraf handles India’s plot against Pakistan.

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  • Hedgefunder
    Nov 11, 2011 - 3:11PM

    @Butt:
    Which plot are you talking about??? The one in Kargil ! Where he came unstruck, and decided to take over the Country in order to save his own skin !!!!!!!

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  • Mad-Paki
    Nov 11, 2011 - 3:56PM

    Yeah, right!!

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  • YEAHRIGHT
    Nov 11, 2011 - 5:07PM

    @Hedgefunder:

    Wht was the problem with the Kargil plot. Indian army is killing innocent kashmiris every day. For tht you wont open up mouth. Wht double standards….
    Secondly Mr.Innocent Nawaz sharif knew whts happening thre are pictures with Musharraf showing him the sites.And Mr. Demoractic released him while he was on an international tour….
    totally lame …

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  • Hedgefunder
    Nov 11, 2011 - 6:29PM

    @YEAHRIGHT:
    Since Independence, how many years have you actually lived in democracy???
    Its become a habit for Pakistanis to be ruled by Despot Army Generals !!!
    They really have showed you progress and development during their reign, not that any of the political parties have achieved anything of importance, apart from building the Bomb, at cost of social welfare of the people and losing half its territory to an new independant nation !!!Recommend

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