Rangers killing: Youth laid to rest, condemnations pour in

I think its only appropriate that this Park’s name be changed to the “Shaheed Sarfaraz Shah Park”.Recommend

its true that we as a society have turned into monsters .. even i he was a robber then hes shouldn’t have been killed like this .. time to think where we are heading as a nation with all apparatuses getting rotten ..Recommend

” A toy gun was found” .

so ,this was no innocent boy of matric.He intended to loot people by showing them a fake gun to silence them because the public doesn’t know in a moment of panic what is real and what is fake,so this boy was no saint but our media is trying to paint this incident as if a pure saint was killed by the rangers.

why did this boy run towards the rangers when they told him to get in the van? he should have followed orders,if you dont surrender but instead run towards the law enforcers then obviously they have every right to open fire for they don’t know whether the person running towards them is coming to kill them or what.Recommend

Pak Rangers Ko SalamRecommend

This one at least got exposed. How much more brutal they must be.Recommend

If they do that in public, I’d hate to imagine what they do when nobody is looking.Recommend

no matter if the guy is guilty, rangers could have shot him in his legs and not to kill the person like this… a common sense…Recommend

@aamir shahid: Our police and rangers never fire when required. They do nothing when there are target killings or mobs killing people, looting or damaging properties. In a majority of cases they are actually supporting the criminals. This is really chilling, to say the least. It’s hard to imagine what the family must be going through.Recommend

There are always two sides to a story – this is not a scenario where a student was picked off from street dragged and then shot – Decease was infact an attempted robber but “his extra judicial Killing” either by law enforcement agencies or by bystanders can not be justified by no means what so ever………. We as a nation have fallen into an Abyss and are sinking deeper as days go by ……Recommend

That’s why, I litterally HATE PAKISTAN SECURITY FORCES.Recommend

I am surprised that we have have not yet come up with some conspiracy in this act. It should be Moosad or Raw who is always do something to malign our brave soldiers. May Allah protect us all.Recommend

One or two rotten eggs with in a community of large number of honourable people bring a bad name to the entire community. Such people should not be allowed to go unpunished. On the other hand Rangers have rendered excellent services in maintaining peace in Karachi. In certain encounters they have suffered casualties also. Usually when a force is employed in populated areas for a prolonged period then the command control is decentralized which results in such cases of breach of discipline. We should not therefore condemn them out rightly. Instead we should insist on improving the discipline of this force.Recommend

Sad. However this is our society and we are all to blame. If we really want to change things we should come out on the streets and stop looking to others to solve the ills of our societyRecommend

Had the guy snatched rifle (as in the footage he was trying to) and opened fired at Rangers the same media would have been cursing our security agencies for being good for nothing. This guy seems to be a criminal because an ordinary citizen would not have hidden his face from the camera, or apologize — he would rather hands up and stand silently — a pistol was also recovered from him.

If the guy was given to the police custody he would have definitely released through courts due to lack of evidences. Infact Ranger’s personnel never wanted to kill him until he tried to snatch his rifle then only he was shot on his leg.

I believe benefit of the doubt should be given to Rangers, if we keep portraying negative image of Rangers such criminals would be encouraged and will continue to kill innocent civilians.Recommend

Sir gee, our whole society has become selfish and self centered…How a common man can discourage these politicians and military people without getting united and killing such armed soldiers on spot.

Hamari Ghairat sirf Anti American slogans k liyeh he reh gai hai. These politicians are making us so fool that willing to do DHARNA for drone attacks (drones actually killing terrorists) but they will never ever state a single line to eradicate internal issues. All double standards and nothing else.Recommend

@maryam: Don’t compare law of jungle with law of human. Animals attack only when they are threaten or hungry. Animals don’t hurt otherwise.Recommend

Wat will happen if tomorrow any one of us will face the same incident??? If any one of us is shot like this then? Few comments…., prayers for the departed soul and then we will get busy in our stuff. We are used to it. No use ….Recommend

What are rangers doing in Karachi, except for occupying precious space and buildings? Crimes are on the rise and these rangers are doing litterally nothing. Even if the young fellow was a criminal, footage shows that he had surrendered and threfore should be arrested, not killed.Recommend

This ”Student”:

Only moments earlier had held a family hostage at gunpoint with his pistol
He was arrested but fought with Ranegrs and attempted to snatch Rangers’ Rifle.

You would be shot in any part of the world for this sort of act…Pakistan or no Pakistan….

He was just a very unprofessional street robber.

Hurray for Pak Rangers.Recommend

Armed or unarmed, guilty or not, my question is simple and represents the demand of all the Pakistanis… Would they have shot the son of a minister, even if he was carrying a fully automatic machine gun???Recommend

No doubt this is terrible, but please let’s not get too emotional. We can’t condem someone unheard. Let’s the investigative committe go through the whole episode then just the clip being shown on media, to invistigate the whole saga as to waht happened. Once again, this is in no way defendable, but i’m sure we will all agree that a bandit riddling 15 bullets throguh the chest of a man driving his car in karachi just beacuse he didn’t handover his cell phone to them, is also not defendable.
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It is time that the politicains sit together and think how can Karachi be rescued from the hands of “Batha khoors”.Recommend

Nothing new. It will take my whole life to forget about the brutal lynching of brothers in Sialkot. and now this. We sometimes feel ashamed of being called pakistanis living in foreign countries.Recommend

@Dajjal:
yea. and better give him nishan e haider too. I wonder why the family hasn’t yet asked for it.Recommend

if we do nothing then we are supporters of such crimesRecommend

AHHAHA… I love this country.Recommend

And the Chief Justice ran out of suo moto again. He used the last one on Atiqa Odho.Recommend

If you watch the whole video, it’s clear that the victim was not innocent. He claims to have used a “naqli” gun to rob. Then he lunges at a ranger and tries to grab his gun. He would probably have met the same fate in any other country.Recommend

Will CJ take suo moto notice of this gruesome incident? He acted promptly on the incident of Atiqa Odho and the people expect that he will act on this event as well.Recommend

@Nazer.

i 100 % agree wid u.Recommend

Indirectly this shows the weakness of our judicial system. The real street robbers, even if caught red handed go free in a matter of months. Infact mugging on gun point, should be taken as an attempt to murder. Have we not heard enough of people being killed by these robbers?
Having said all of this i still believe this guy should have been tried. The only “positive” thing I could imagine is that this brutality renders fear in the hearts of the “real” street robbers. At lest for a few days!!Recommend

All those who speak as if it was ok to shoot someone who begged for his life need to see with thier on eyes what happened. So your justification on how to deal with a robber is to shoot him at point blank range and left him to die as he bleeds to death begging for his life, begging to take him to hospital?
See the uncensored version if you can bear and then tell if you are still ok with with it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mCbWIEk8qI

moderator please allow my comment throughRecommend

who made da video where is he and how such a clear video some insider or some spy camRecommend

@Aamir Rehman:
The point is that even if he was a robber than after getting shot by the rangers he must have been taken to the hospital for medical aid. After that it was a matter of court. May be the rangers did right at the first place although I am not sure but after shooting him they must have taken him to the hospital.Recommend

Even if was a robber, even if he did approach the rangers, even if he had a gun which appeared to be real at the time, shooting him and letting him bleed to death is unacceptable. We call ourselves the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, yet we fail to observe the tenets of the religion where ever they need to be applied. It is unlawful to to kill someone in this way when he posed no immediate threat. And it is especially unlawful to let the man bleed to death while he implores for medical assistance. This society has only one value it seems, and that is hypocrisy.Recommend

I wonder why he was saying Main Majboor hoon before he went towards rangers??
If rangers had intention to kill him, why they shot him on the leg why not directly on the head where they can?
Extra-judicial killing should not be appreciated but one should look at the incident without any bias and prejudices?…Recommend

The man who made the video should be sorted out well and proper. Instead of trying his skills on camera should have evacuated the wounded person to the hospital. His act is malicious and insult to humanity. He should share the responsibility along with the shooters.Recommend

Justification for a crime:

Some have argued for that the teen was a criminal and may have posed a threat to the Rangers and Police: Allegations (from high officials as well) without proof and trial of the dead would be liable in most developed Nations.

…..Your argument (justification, understanding, or leniency) may be sound if there was no video tape of the incident. This argument has been used all over the world to justify murder of innocent people through justification by association…meaning the reverse….instead of all are innocent until proven guilty to all are guilty and must prove their innocence.

It is true our law enforcement officials and troops must be thanked for their great service to Pakistan. All people must support the law, police, and our troops… with the very difficult job they do to protect us…Their bravery and sacrifices must be upheld….

…..Accepting that, these individuals, Rangers, crossed the line and became a part of the problem that Pakistan is transitioning through….with a few shots, these individuals tarnished the hard work and sacrifice of so many others…They became Judge, Jury and Executioners….

Why do civilized societies have laws, jails, courts and lawyers, judges and juries (should we do away with all these as luxuries).

Murder is murder, whether it done in or out of uniform.

This doesn’t bode well if Pakistan wants to be a Just and Honourable Society.

There must consequences for this action…trial and justice….the nation must see this transparently. If the public has no faith in the public officials and the law…all the institutions will be blemished, tarnished and break down …which many will argue has already happened.

SeanRecommend

u r rite@Dajjal:Recommend