Rottweiler Club of Pakistan: Maligned breed comes out to prove the dog days are gone

…. In the words of a dog-lover and senior KCP member:

“This article is full of lies … this time Atiqa Odho was used as leverage and claim to fame.

Only 18 dogs were shown which belonged to 7 out of the 8 organizers! LOL terrible quality and full-time rigged show.”

EXPRESS should do a check up before publishing baseless stories … it certainly affects the credibility of the publication.Recommend

Last night maybe i read this for the first time and got carried away with my emotions while stating the facts… i beg your pardon if i sounded malicious or seemed to be dissing the dogs, club, organizers or the event. that was definitely not my intention nor my style.

having been a dog-lover by birth, I have been attending shows since the 70′s and now take my kids to them. When the RCP was formed, i was delighted at having a specialty club other than the GSDCP which naturally meant more clubs could be encouraged and initiated too. In a country where Conformation Shows is all we have and the dog world is in it’s initial stages (since the founding of the Nation!). the only breeders are the ones after the money disregarding the ethics or morals and least bothered about the breed, puppy mills and low quality imports are looked highly upon, this seemed like a breath of fresh air.

after re-reading the above article, i enjoyed the subtle hints and between-the-lines tips :-)

the first paragraph: “Mummy smiles back. They know they’re going to win.”
of course they knew! :-)

“The goal is to discredit the huge fallacy about the aggressive nature of the dog,”
it is not a fallacy, the Rottweiler IS an aggressive guard dog and must only be handled by experienced and strong people from a young age, and not a happy family pet as it is portrayed by the club officials and suggested to newbies… that’s like letting an accident happen!

a few handful of influential people certainly have control over what the trends are; therefore Rotties have become the new status symbol, low quality pups are being imported from Sunday bazaars of Thailand and Russia and in-experienced novices are ill-breeding them for a quick buck. It has always been such practices which have ruined breeds all over the world and caused them to be banned and the victims of bad publicity.
while advertising the show, Ms. Odho somewhere said that “bring your dogs to the show so they may socialize…” dog shows are certainly NOT to be an arena for socializing, this should be done at an early age to make the dog a healthy, sound citizen and well-behaved dog FOR the shows.

“to improve the breed and the standard of the dog in Pakistan and also to teach owners techniques to help socialise these dogs and improve their temperament.”

this is yet to be seen, the breed standard has only gone down and the dogs resulting are either shy, out of proportion in physical appearance and/or unpredictably aggressive. a far cry from what the breed standard of FCI calls it to be.

not all is rotten, by the way, as good dogs are also imported from reputable breeders around the world (costing more than a Prado, at times!) but then these are used at the puppy mills to recover the costs incurred! :)

“It’s a tough class, a tough class,” murmured Odho from the audience as one round went in. “Look at number 3 in line.”
the largest number of dogs in one class was 5, not quite as tough as the first show where 12 dogs were shown in the Open male category! and the judge made them go around the ring 4 times before he could reach a decision!

another unethical practice seen was the judge periodically having a look at the catalog! this is a big no-no, as the judge is never anywhere supposed to know the name of the dog, breeder, owner etc to avoid biased judgments. but of course the awards were not being given to the dogs this time…
even when an international judge is flown in (whether for the RCP or KCP), they are briefed as to being lenient and how we are poor, young clubs in need of encouragement. most judges go with the flow, but when an ethical judge comes in, well he can be assured he won’t be called the next time!

I could go on… but in a country where a premier’s assassination remains covered up, what can i expect from small private clubs run for the entertainment and ego of a few handful?

but i try… umeed pe duniya qaim hai…Recommend

and mr hasan as u say that there were terrible quality rotties at the show can u please tell here the readers that how many rotties do u own and please how can we see those excellent quality rotties and then i will challenge u any judge u say and i will show what rotties r except 1 judge here in pakistan rest any where in the world would love to compete and if any judge gives the comment u gave then we can have this chat till u dont show what rotties u have till then ssssssssshhhhhhhhhRecommend

and my experience of over 30 years proves that KCP is no better either, one can’t be too sure of foreign judges as these are also majorly influenced by the big bosses of our clubs ;-)Recommend

@ Ali Chottani: … Dost, Forget Rotweiler, I don’t even own a dog … but am a established Publicist and Events professional and have been part of initial KCP dog-shows back in the 90′s (I wonder if you were even born in that era).

Writing an article is another part of publicity and especially an article favoring and plastering a particular subject is known as “placed-content”.

If Mr. Hassan Khan was present and covered the event .. he did it with complete bias and and favorism and the tone used in his article is full of dramatic elements … something not part of common Journalistic language.

Also If you read my comments above … I started my comments with “…. In the words of a dog-lover and senior KCP member:” …. which in common language shows that these are NOT my words but from someone present at the show.

So please do fill your tummy before try barbing, next time. Recommend

Hi Guys… Relax. I think every one has a right to speak or say what ever he thinks for something and have a full liberty to analyze the way he may want… to be honest here, yes there should be more dogs, but due to many reasons one could not have made it – tuff luck! better luck next time. A real fact to know here, is that almost 85% of Rottis in Pakistan comes from the 7-8 breeders who are the organizers of these shows in here and this is a fact and this is not a problem at all but yes when it comes to the judgement, one should be very specific as per the standard requirements set by ADRK for Rottweilers. Most of us see that judge simply change the places of the dogs and put one and other to the different rankings, but never gives reasons why he is doing so and as per the ADRK standards why he is taking certain decisions and based on what factors. This way the viewer standing outside is confused and see and analyze the situation as per his own understanding and norms. To the best of my knowledge our judges should keep the standard and factors evaluation sheet in their hands when judging any dog and then for each they should scale down the marks for each dog for each factor and in the end the highest mark getter should win the category for which he is competing, this is the standard followed in every part of the world (I think we all would support it and can argue the judge for what we think that on certain factors we are thinking in the different way then him! He should give solid reasons to defend himself, otherwise it would be very clear to all there to see the judgement qualities and experience possesed by him)

On the other hand i personally think that if the dog would have been mine, even then Mr. Hassan would have written this well as he did for Ms. Odho’s Mangal Bagh!!!!!!

Thirdly, to correct Mr. Chottani here, Ali Reza did not say “terrible” to Dogs in the above statement, i think he was talking about the the show and its quality, for which we all would agree that it was on the lesser side! I would suggest Reza on the other hand that at least the use of such words (like – terrible) could have been written to the best replaced synonyms :)Recommend

Well to be honest here, KHI EXPO show, was not a real dog show. It was implanted there to get the maximum turnout and make it more a commercial commodity/activity. Mr. Virk, well he was definitely explaining the details but not in accordance to any set standards as it had to be. I was there and i am sorry the judgement there was at the very low level and i can give you evidences where Mr. Virk was seriously in the violation of many judge’s standards and even on an argument he was clueless that what supportive reasons he can give to facilitate his decisions. I am just candid here, please accept my apology if thats hurts you!!!!!!!
I disagree that the show held was a cocktail party, the over all infrastructure for this we have in Pakistan is just like this and we need improvements. KCP is doing very less for this and thats what the outcome is always. These 7-8 breeders at least producing a class and putting KCP in the list of FCI and other governing bodies. Thats a remarkable job, they are not stopping any new comer to come and have their places, at least they are complimenting all the dogs lovers by selling their best of the breed pups to them and in future they could become champions and people praise them. Celebrities, they are everywhere, so we should take it positively and i must say it again that this is not a bad thing, Judgement is important and the standards to follow is more important than that. Lastly i personally believe that even if my dog was a winner of the show, it would have been publicized in the same manner as it was done for any celebrity. Recommend

Fantoos my dear, I do not get hurt easily, and don’t mind anything u say :-)

DAWN Lifestyles-sponsored shows are never real dog shows, but then again, I have never been to a REAL dog show in Pakistan to be honest…

and my friend, haven’t dogs won shows before ever? every season, every show, some dog always wins right? how many times have u read such articles being published prior to this one…?? that should answer ur question… Recommend

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…. OOOOO HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

another wonderful show! :-D just what we were missing was a bit of melodrama, MashAllah that too was provided today alongwith transparency to show all participants what fairness is. Recommend